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040A stock rose from Rs 200 to Rs 450 over five years, while its EPS grew 10% a year from Rs 10. How much of the return came from earnings growth and how much from a change in the multiple? Ignore dividends.Sell-side equity researchBuy-side equity research
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What was the P/E at the end of the five years?
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EPS rose to Rs 16.1 and the P/E rose from 20x to 27.9x, so earnings explain about 59% of the gain and re-rating the rest. The price multiplied by 2.25. EPS multiplied by 1.15 = 1.611, and the multiple by 1.397; the two multiply to 2.25. A year, that is 17.6% total: 10% from earnings and 6.9% from the multiple.
Why split a return into earnings and multiple at all?
A house bought for Rs 50 lakh sells for Rs 1 crore. Part of the gain came from the rent rising, part from buyers being willing to pay more years of rent for the same flat. A share price is EPS times P/E, so any change in price is a change in earnings multiplied by a change in the multiple. The split matters because earnings growth can continue while the business grows, but a multiple cannot rise for ever.
The relationshipP share price at the start and end E earnings per share PE the price to earnings multiple What it says in wordsThe price change is the earnings change multiplied by the change in the multiple.Earnings growth at the starting 20x multiple takes the price from Rs 200 to Rs 322.1, and re-rating from 20x to 27.9x adds the last Rs 127.9; the return is earnings growth times multiple change, and only the earnings part can repeat. Does the rupee split depend on which step you take first?
Order Earnings leg, Rs Re-rating leg, Rs Earnings first, at 20x 122.1 127.9 Re-rating first, on EPS of Rs 10 170.6 79.4 Log split, order-free 59% of the gain 41% of the gain The rupee split changes with the order because the two effects multiply; the log split does not. Yes, and that is worth saying before the interviewer does. Because the effects multiply, the cross term goes to whichever leg is taken second, so a rupee split is a convention, while the log split of 59% and 41% is not. The analyst's conclusion: 41% of this return came from investors paying more for each rupee of profit. If the multiple drifts back to 20x, a holder earns only the EPS growth, and the next five years look very different from the last.
Where candidates lose it
The usual loss is dividing 450 by the old EPS of 10, or growing EPS by 10% simple interest to Rs 15 or Rs 20. Compound the EPS first: Rs 16.1 is the number that makes the rest work.
The second loss is giving a rupee split as if it were unique. Say that it depends on order and give the log split as the fair answer.
What the interviewer asks next
- If the P/E returns to 20x over the next five years while EPS keeps growing 10%, what is the annual return?
- How would you include dividends in the split?
- Why might a multiple rise legitimately, without it being a bubble?
042A company books a Rs 200 crore goodwill impairment. What happens to its EPS, its cash, its net worth, and a loan covenant set on net debt to EBITDA?Sell-side equity researchBuy-side equity research
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Which of the four moves?
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EPS and net worth fall; cash and net debt to EBITDA do not move. Assuming no tax deduction for the charge, reported profit falls by Rs 200 crore, taking EPS from Rs 5.00 to Rs 3.00 on 100 crore shares, and net worth falls by Rs 200 crore. No cash leaves, and EBITDA sits above the charge, so a covenant at 2.5x net debt to EBITDA is untouched. A covenant set on debt to equity would move.
Why does a Rs 200 crore loss leave cash untouched?
Imagine you paid Rs 20 lakh for a car three years ago and a valuer now says it is worth Rs 12 lakh. You are poorer on paper, but your bank balance did not change today; the money left when you bought it. A goodwill impairment admits that an acquisition was worth less than was paid, and the cash for that acquisition left the business when the deal closed. The goodwillThe part of an acquisition price above the fair value of the net assets bought, carried as an asset on the balance sheet. is written down, reported profit takes the charge and equity falls with it.
After a Rs 200 crore write-down EPS falls from Rs 5.00 to Rs 3.00 and net worth from Rs 2,000 crore to Rs 1,800 crore, while cash stays at Rs 300 crore and net debt to EBITDA at 2.5x, because the impairment is a non-cash loss below EBITDA. Which covenant does move, and why does the difference matter?
A covenant built on EBITDA is blind to the charge. A covenant built on net worth or on debt to equity is not: gross debt of Rs 1,300 crore against equity of Rs 2,000 crore is 0.65x, and after the write-down it is 0.72x. So the same accounting entry can be harmless under one loan and a breach under another. An analyst reads the covenant definitions before saying which.
Measure Before After Moves? Reported EPS, Rs 5.00 3.00 Yes Net worth, Rs crore 2,000 1,800 Yes Cash, Rs crore 300 300 No Net debt / EBITDA 2.5x 2.5x No Gross debt / equity 0.65x 0.72x Yes Figures are illustrative: net income before the charge Rs 500 crore, 100 crore shares, net debt Rs 1,000 crore, EBITDA Rs 400 crore. Two more things to say. Most analysts strip the charge out of adjusted EPS, which stays at Rs 5.00, because it says nothing about next year's earnings. And whether the charge saves tax depends on local rules, which usually do not allow a deduction for goodwill impairment; confirm before assuming either way. The real signal is about management: the acquisition is now expected to earn less than was paid for it.
Where candidates lose it
The common loss is saying cash falls because the company lost Rs 200 crore. The cash went out at the time of the acquisition; today's entry is a revaluation.
The second is saying every covenant is safe. EBITDA covenants are, but net worth and gearing covenants take the full hit. Name which kind of covenant before you answer.
What the interviewer asks next
- How does the impairment change return on equity next year?
- Why might management choose to take a large impairment in a year that is already weak?
- Walk through the three statements if the impairment were tax deductible at 25%.
044Comparable companies give you an unlevered beta of 0.8. Your company has debt to equity of 0.5 and a 25% tax rate. What levered beta do you use for its cost of equity?Sell-side equity researchBuy-side equity research
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Before the formula: which direction and roughly how far?
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A levered beta of 1.10. Relever with levered beta = unlevered beta x (1 + (1 - tax rate) x debt/equity). That is 0.8 x (1 + 0.75 x 0.5) = 0.8 x 1.375 = 1.10. The 0.8 is the risk of the business itself; the extra 0.3 is the financial risk shareholders take on because lenders are paid first.
Why does debt raise the equity's beta?
Think of two families with the same salary. One has a home loan EMI to pay first each month; the other has none. A 10% pay cut hurts the family with the EMI far more, because the EMI does not shrink. Lenders are paid a fixed amount first, so the same swing in the business moves the shareholders' leftover by more, and beta measures exactly that swing. The business risk is the 0.8; debt stacks financial risk on top.
The relationshipbeta_U unlevered beta, the risk of the business with no debt t the tax rate, 25% D/E debt to equity, 0.5 What it says in wordsLevered beta is the business's beta scaled up by debt to equity, with the tax shield softening the debt's effect.The business risk of 0.80 stays the same at every debt level, and debt adds financial risk on top: 0.30 at debt to equity of 0.5, for a levered beta of 1.10, and 0.60 at 1.0. Where do candidates go wrong with the inputs?
Two places. Debt to equity uses market values where you can, and it is debt over equity, not debt over total capital: 0.5 debt to equity is one third debt in the capital structure. Using 0.33 by mistake gives 0.8 x (1 + 0.75 x 0.33) = 1.00. And the tax rate is the one that applies to this company's interest deduction; confirm the current rate rather than assuming it.
Say the limitation. The formula assumes the debt itself carries no market risk and that the debt level stays constant. For a heavily indebted company, debt starts to behave like equity and the simple formula overstates the levered beta.
Where candidates lose it
The fast wrong answers are 0.8, treating beta as fixed, and 1.2, relevering without the tax shield. The interviewer wants the formula said out loud with the numbers in it.
The quieter loss is mixing up debt to equity with debt to capital, which moves the answer from 1.10 to 1.00 and is hard to spot once it is buried in a model.
What the interviewer asks next
- Go the other way: a peer has levered beta 1.3, D/E 0.8 and a 25% tax rate. What is its unlevered beta?
- Why unlever peer betas before averaging them?
- With a risk-free rate of 7% and an equity risk premium of 6%, what cost of equity does a beta of 1.1 give?
047Three stocks you cover report this quarter. Each beats consensus with probability 0.6, independently of the others. What is the chance that at least two of them beat?Sell-side equity researchBuy-side equity research
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0.648. At least two means exactly two or all three. Exactly two can happen three ways, each with chance 0.6 x 0.6 x 0.4 = 0.144, so 0.432 together. All three beat with 0.6 cubed, 0.216. Adding them gives 0.648. The complement checks it: none beat 0.064 plus exactly one 0.288 is 0.352, and 1 minus 0.352 is 0.648.
How do you avoid missing an outcome?
Think of three friends each deciding whether to come to dinner. At least two coming covers four different guest lists: each of the three possible pairs, and all three. List the outcomes by how many succeed, count the ways each count can happen, and multiply by the chance of one such way. With three stocks there are only eight results, so write them down; with more, the count of ways is a binomial coefficientThe number of ways to choose k items out of n, written n choose k; here 3 choose 2 is 3..
Of the eight possible results, all three beating has chance 0.216 and each of the three ways to get exactly two beats has 0.144, so the at-least-two group adds to 0.648 rather than 0.6 x 0.6. The relationshipX the number of the three stocks that beat 3 choose 2 the three ways to pick which two beat 0.4 the chance the remaining stock misses What it says in wordsAdd the chance of exactly two beats, counted three ways, to the chance of all three.Is independence a fair assumption for three stocks you cover?
Usually not, and saying so is the part that sounds like an analyst. Stocks in one sector share demand, input costs and the same consensus-setting habits, so beats tend to cluster: when one beats, the others are more likely to. Clustering fattens both ends. The chance of all three beating and of none beating both rise above 0.216 and 0.064, and whether at least two beat can move either way, so the independent answer is a starting point, not a forecast.
Where candidates lose it
The fast wrong answer is 0.36, multiplying two 0.6s. It is the chance that two named stocks both beat, and it ignores both the choice of pair and the third stock.
The second loss is getting exactly two, 0.432, and stopping. At least two includes all three. Use the complement as a check: it takes five seconds and catches both slips.
What the interviewer asks next
- What is the chance that exactly one of the three beats?
- With ten stocks at 0.6 each, what is the expected number of beats?
- If beats were perfectly correlated, what would the chance of at least two be?
048Estimate the yearly revenue and gross profit of a single petrol pump on a busy highway. Build it from vehicles passing per hour, the share that stop, litres per fill and the dealer's margin per litre.Indian brokerage researchConsulting style estimation
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Which vehicle type drives most of the pump's litres?
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About Rs 69 crore of revenue and Rs 2.2 crore of gross profit a year, on stated assumptions. Assume 12,000 vehicles a day pass on the pump's side, about 500 an hour. About 384 stop, filling 20,232 litres a day, most of it diesel for trucks. At assumed pump prices near Rs 90 to Rs 100 a litre that is Rs 18.8 lakh a day; at an assumed dealer margin of Rs 3 a litre the pump keeps about Rs 2.2 crore a year.
Where does the estimate start?
Think of a roadside dhaba: its takings depend less on how many vehicles pass than on which ones stop and how much each group eats. Start from the traffic on the pump's side of the road, split it by vehicle type, and apply a stop rate and litres per fill to each, because the three types differ by a factor of forty in what they buy. Every input below is an assumption for the method; fuel prices and dealer margins change and should be checked before use.
Vehicle Passing a day Stop rate Stops Litres a fill Litres a day Two-wheelers 3,600 3% 108 4 432 Cars 6,000 3% 180 30 5,400 Trucks 2,400 4% 96 150 14,400 Total 12,000 384 20,232 Assumed inputs: 12,000 vehicles a day on the pump's side, a 3% to 4% stop rate, and typical fills by vehicle type. Trucks make 25% of the 384 daily stops but buy 71% of the 20,232 litres, so on a highway pump trucks are a minority of stops and the majority of litres. How do you turn litres into revenue and profit, and check the answer?
Revenue is litres times the pump price: petrol for two-wheelers and cars at an assumed Rs 100, diesel for trucks at Rs 90, which gives Rs 18.8 lakh a day and Rs 68.6 crore a year. The dealer does not keep the pump price; it earns a commission per litre, so gross profit is litres times margin, about Rs 2.2 crore a year at Rs 3 a litre. Sanity check the stops: 384 a day is about 16 an hour, one fill every four minutes, which a pump with a few nozzles handles easily. The weakest assumption is the truck stop rate, since fleet operators choose pumps by contract and credit terms, not by chance.
Where candidates lose it
The common loss is averaging litres across all vehicles, say 15 litres a fill, which hides the fact that the answer is a truck-diesel story. The second is quoting revenue as profit: a pump's revenue is mostly the fuel's cost passed through, and the dealer keeps a few rupees a litre.
State each assumption as a round number, show the split by vehicle, and finish with the per-hour sanity check.
What the interviewer asks next
- How would the estimate change for a pump inside a city?
- What non-fuel income could a highway pump add, and how would you size it?
- If a new expressway diverts half the trucks, what happens to the pump's gross profit?
049Company A trades at 3x EV/sales and 15x EV/EBITDA. Company B trades at 2x EV/sales and 12x EV/EBITDA. What EBITDA margins do those multiples imply, and which company is cheaper for the margin you get?Sell-side equity researchBuy-side equity research
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What EBITDA margin does company A's pair of multiples imply?
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A implies a 20% margin and B 16.7%; B is cheaper for the margin you get. EV/sales divided by EV/EBITDA is EBITDA over sales, so A is 3 / 15 and B is 2 / 12. A pays 1.5 times as much per rupee of sales, but its margin is only 1.2 times B's. The rest of A's premium is a higher price per rupee of EBITDA, 15x against 12x, which has to be earned by faster growth or better quality.
How do two multiples reveal a margin?
If a flat costs Rs 60 lakh, which is 20 years of rent, and 3 times the owner's salary, you can work out that the rent is a fifteenth of the salary without seeing either. Two multiples on the same numerator divide to give the ratio of their denominators, so EV/sales over EV/EBITDA is EBITDA over sales, the margin. The enterprise value cancels, and the market has told you what margin it is capitalising.
For every Rs 100 of sales the market pays Rs 300 for A's Rs 20 of EBITDA and Rs 200 for B's Rs 16.7, so the two multiples together reveal margins of 20% and 16.7% and show that A's premium is more than its extra margin. So which is cheaper?
Split A's premium. A trades at 1.5 times B's sales multiple, and that decomposes exactly into 1.20 times the margin and 1.25 times the price per rupee of EBITDA. The margin explains part of the premium; the rest is the market paying 15x rather than 12x for each rupee of profit. On EBITDA, B is cheaper by a fifth. That does not make B the better stock: if A grows faster, converts more EBITDA to cash or carries less risk, the higher multiple may be deserved. The next question to ask is which of those it is.
The relationshipEV/Sales enterprise value per rupee of sales EV/EBITDA enterprise value per rupee of EBITDA What it says in wordsDividing the sales multiple by the EBITDA multiple cancels the enterprise value and leaves the margin.Say the limitation: the implied margin is only as good as the EBITDA in the multiple. If one company's EBITDA is a forecast and the other's is last year's, or one capitalises costs the other expenses, the comparison is off before you start.
Where candidates lose it
The usual slip is dividing the wrong way, 15 over 3, and announcing a margin of 500%. Or calling A expensive because 3x sales is higher than 2x, without noticing that A earns more on each rupee of sales.
Give both margins, then decompose the premium. The interviewer is checking whether you can separate paying for margin from paying for each rupee of profit.
What the interviewer asks next
- A third company trades at 1.5x sales and 12x EBITDA. Where does it sit?
- If A's growth is 15% and B's is 8%, how would you compare them on growth-adjusted multiples?
- Why might EV/sales be the more useful multiple for a loss-making company?
054A stock's daily volatility is 1.5%. What is its volatility over a month of 21 trading days, and what is a rough 95% one-month value at risk on a Rs 10 crore position?AQR Capital ManagementGreenwich · 2022
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What is the monthly volatility?
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About 6.9% a month, and a 95% one-month value at risk of about Rs 1.13 crore. Variance adds across independent days, so volatility scales with the square root of time: 1.5% x the square root of 21, which is 4.58, gives 6.87%. The one-tailed 95% point of a normal distribution is 1.645 standard deviations, so a bad month costs 1.645 x 6.87% = 11.3% of Rs 10 crore, about Rs 1.13 crore.
Why does volatility grow with the square root of time?
Think of someone taking random steps left or right along a lane. After 100 steps they are not 100 steps from where they began; many steps cancelled, and the typical distance is about 10 steps, the square root of 100. Daily returns behave the same way when one day does not predict the next. Variances add across days, so the standard deviation, which is the square root of the variance, grows with the square root of the number of days.
The relationship\sigma_1 daily volatility, the standard deviation of one day's return \sigma_{21} volatility over 21 trading days \sqrt{21} the square root of the number of days, 4.58 What it says in wordsMonthly volatility is daily volatility times the square root of the number of trading days in the month.With a monthly volatility of 6.9%, the worst one month in twenty sits beyond 1.645 standard deviations, a fall of 11.3%, which on a Rs 10 crore position is a loss of more than Rs 1.13 crore. How do you turn a volatility into a rupee value at risk?
Value at riskA loss threshold that a position should exceed only with a stated small probability over a stated period, such as 5% over one month. answers one question: how much would a bad month cost, where bad means the worst month in twenty. Under a normal distribution 5% of outcomes fall below the mean minus 1.645 standard deviations, so the 95% one-month VaR is 1.645 x 6.87% = 11.3% of the position. On Rs 10 crore that is about Rs 1.13 crore. Assume a zero expected return for the month; over one month the drift is small against the volatility.
What does the number leave out?
Two things, and saying them separates an analyst from a calculator. The square root rule needs independent days; when bad days cluster, as they do in a sell-off, real monthly risk is higher than 6.9%. And VaR marks the edge of the tail, not what sits inside it: it says nothing about how bad the worst 5% of months can get. Real returns have fatter tails than the normal curve, so a one-in-twenty month can cost well over Rs 1.13 crore.
Where candidates lose it
The classic error is multiplying by 21 and quoting 31.5%, a monthly volatility that would make an ordinary stock look like a lottery ticket. The interviewer asks daily against monthly precisely to see whether you know that variance, not volatility, adds across time.
The second loss comes at VaR: using 1.96, the two-tailed figure, instead of 1.645. VaR is about losses only, one tail of the curve. Say one-tailed out loud and the right multiplier follows.
What the interviewer asks next
- What is the annual volatility, using 252 trading days? (about 23.8%)
- What would the 99% one-month VaR be, and why is it not simply double?
- Why might the square root of time rule understate risk in a crisis?
Asked at AQR Capital Management, Quantitative Research, Greenwich, 2022 (Wall Street Oasis):
Specific statistics questions on financial concepts. daily vs monthly return, VAR, more that i don't remember
057A company has 100 crore shares trading at Rs 50 and net income of Rs 500 crore. It uses Rs 1,000 crore of cash, which was earning 6% a year before tax, to buy back shares at Rs 50. The tax rate is 25%. What happens to EPS?Sell-side equity researchBuy-side equity research
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What is the new EPS?
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EPS rises 13.75%, from Rs 5.00 to about Rs 5.69. The cash was earning 6% before tax, Rs 60 crore, or Rs 45 crore after tax, so net income falls to Rs 455 crore. Rs 1,000 crore at Rs 50 retires 20 crore shares, leaving 80 crore. Rs 455 crore over 80 crore shares is Rs 5.69. The buyback helps because the earnings yield on the shares, 10%, beats the 4.5% after-tax yield on the cash.
Why does a buyback change EPS at all?
Four friends own a small shop and split its profit. One sells out to the other three, paid from the shop's savings account. Profit dips a little, because the savings no longer earn interest, but it is now split three ways instead of four. A buyback lowers earnings by the lost return on the cash and lowers the share count by the shares retired; EPS rises when the second effect is larger. Here the share count falls 20% and net income falls only 9%.
Retiring 20 crore shares adds Rs 1.25 to EPS and the lost after-tax interest of Rs 45 crore takes back Rs 0.56, so EPS ends at Rs 5.69, because a 10% earnings yield beats a 4.5% after-tax cash yield. The relationship500 net income before the buyback, Rs crore 1,000 x 6% x (1 - 25%) the after-tax interest the cash was earning, Rs 45 crore 1,000/50 shares retired, 20 crore What it says in wordsNew EPS is net income less the lost after-tax interest, divided by the shares left after the buyback.When does a buyback lift EPS?
Compare two yields. The earnings yieldEPS divided by the share price: the earnings each rupee spent on the shares buys. It is one over the P/E. is Rs 5 over Rs 50, 10%: what each rupee spent on shares buys in earnings. The after-tax yield on cash is 6% x (1 - 25%), 4.5%: what each rupee was earning where it sat. A buyback lifts EPS whenever the earnings yield beats the after-tax yield on the cash spent, which is the same as a P/E below one over that yield. Here the break-even P/E is 22.2x, so the same buyback would leave EPS flat at a share price of about Rs 111.
Does higher EPS mean each share is worth more?
Not by itself. EPS rose 13.75%, but the company also handed out Rs 1,000 crore of cash, and a buyback at a fair price leaves each remaining share worth the same. Before, the equity was worth Rs 5,000 crore over 100 crore shares; after, Rs 4,000 crore over 80 crore shares, still Rs 50 each. Holders own a bigger slice of a company that has less cash and so carries a little more risk, which is why the P/E often slips when EPS is lifted this way.
Where candidates lose it
Candidates forget the lost interest and divide Rs 500 crore by 80 crore shares, getting Rs 6.25 and a 25% rise. The cash was earning something, and that income disappears the day the cash is spent. The tax on it matters too: the lost income is Rs 45 crore, not Rs 60 crore.
The second loss is treating the EPS jump as value created. Say that a buyback at a fair price moves value between the shareholders who sell and those who stay; the EPS rise is the mirror image of a company that now holds less cash.
What the interviewer asks next
- At what share price would this buyback leave EPS unchanged? (about Rs 111)
- The company borrows the Rs 1,000 crore at 9% instead. What happens to EPS?
- Why might the P/E fall after a buyback that lifts EPS?
060Without a calculator, estimate the present value of Rs 10 crore a year for 10 years, received at the end of each year, at a discount rate of 10%.Buy-side equity researchLong-only asset management
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About Rs 61 crore. A perpetuity of Rs 10 crore at 10% is worth Rs 100 crore. A perpetuity that starts only after year 10 is worth that Rs 100 crore discounted back ten years; 1.1 to the power 10 is about 2.59, giving Rs 38.6 crore. The ten-year stream is the difference, Rs 100 crore less Rs 38.6 crore, about Rs 61.4 crore, or roughly six years of undiscounted cash.
Why subtract two perpetuities?
Think of a shop lease that pays you rent for ten years. It is the same as a lease that pays you forever, minus a lease that starts in year eleven and pays you forever after. A ten-year annuity equals a perpetuity starting now less a perpetuity starting in year eleven, and a perpetuity is one division: payment over rate. That turns an awkward ten-term sum into two numbers you can hold in your head: Rs 100 crore, and the same Rs 100 crore pushed ten years into the future.
Each Rs 10 crore payment is worth less the later it arrives, from Rs 9.09 crore in year one to Rs 3.86 crore in year ten, and the ten present values add to Rs 61.4 crore, about six years of cash. How do you get 1.1 to the power 10 in your head?
Square, don't multiply. 1.1 squared is 1.21; squared again is about 1.46 for four years; squared again is about 2.14 for eight years; one more 1.21 for years nine and ten gives about 2.59. Three squarings and one multiplication get you to 1.1^10 = 2.59, and 100 divided by 2.59 is about 38.6. A second route checks it: the rule of 72 says 10% doubles money in about 7.2 years, so ten years is a little more than one doubling, around 2.6.
The relationshipC the yearly payment, Rs 10 crore r the discount rate, 10% n the number of payments, 10 C/r the value of the same payment forever, Rs 100 crore What it says in wordsThe annuity is the perpetuity value times the share of it that is not pushed beyond year ten.What sanity checks can you say out loud?
Bracket it first. Every payment is worth between Rs 3.86 crore, the year ten payment, and Rs 9.09 crore, the year one payment, so the total sits between Rs 38.6 crore and Rs 90.9 crore. A tighter check treats all ten payments as arriving at the midpoint, year 5.5: Rs 100 crore over 1.1^5.5 is about Rs 59 crore, close to 61.4. The midpoint shortcut always comes out a little low, because discounting curves, which is itself a useful thing to say.
Where candidates lose it
Answering Rs 100 crore ignores discounting, and answering Rs 50 crore by halving on a hunch gives the interviewer no method to follow. The question is a test of whether you have a structure that works without a calculator.
The other loss is multiplying 1.1 by itself ten times out loud and losing the thread by year six. Square three times and multiply once; it is four steps and it sounds fluent.
What the interviewer asks next
- What is it worth if each payment arrives at the start of the year instead? (about Rs 67.6 crore)
- What discount rate makes the same stream worth Rs 50 crore? (about 15.1%)
- How does the answer change if the payments grow 5% a year?
062Russian roulette: a six-chamber revolver holds two bullets in adjacent chambers. The cylinder is spun, the trigger is pulled once and it clicks on an empty chamber. The trigger will be pulled once more. Should that second pull come straight away, or after the cylinder is spun again?SchonfeldCentral · 2022
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Straight away, or spin again?
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Pull again straight away: you survive with probability 3/4, against 2/3 after a fresh spin. The four empty chambers sit together in a row and the cylinder advances one chamber per pull. The click you heard came from one of those four, each equally likely. Only one of them, the last empty chamber before the bullets, is followed by a bullet, so the chance of dying without a spin is 1/4. A fresh spin puts you back at two bullets in six.
Why does the first click carry information?
Picture a street with four dark houses in a row, then two lit ones, laid out in a circle. You are told you are standing at a dark house and that you will walk to the next door. Three of the four dark houses have another dark house next door. The click tells you that you are somewhere in the run of four empty chambers, and because the bullets sit together, most of that run is followed by another empty chamber. A fresh spin throws that information away.
With the two bullets in chambers 1 and 2, a click means the cylinder was at chamber 3, 4, 5 or 6; chambers 3, 4 and 5 are followed by an empty chamber and only 6 by a bullet, so pulling again survives 75% of the time against 66.7% after a spin. The relationship3/4 three of the four empty chambers are followed by another empty chamber 4/6 four empty chambers out of six after a fresh spin What it says in wordsWithout a spin you condition on being in the run of empty chambers; with a spin you start again from scratch.Would the answer change if the bullets were not next to each other?
Yes, and saying so shows you understand the mechanism rather than the trick. Put the bullets in chambers 1 and 4. The empty chambers are 2, 3, 5 and 6, and two of them, 3 and 6, sit in front of a bullet. With the bullets apart, pulling straight away survives only 50% of the time, so a fresh spin at 66.7% becomes the better choice. The adjacency is what makes the empty chambers cluster, and the clustering is what makes the click informative in your favour.
Why would an investing firm ask this?
Because it is a small version of the question every analyst faces after new information: does what just happened change the odds of what comes next? An outcome you have already seen is data about the state of the world, and ignoring it in favour of the unconditional average is a common and costly habit. Say that link in one line after the numbers.
Where candidates lose it
Candidates say it makes no difference, or say spin because it resets the odds, treating the first click as if it told them nothing. The whole question turns on the click being information about where the cylinder sits.
The second slip is dividing two bullets by the five chambers that remain and getting 3/5. The cylinder does not pick a random remaining chamber; it advances to the next one. Say that out loud and the 3/4 follows.
What the interviewer asks next
- What if the bullets were in chambers 1 and 4 instead?
- Three bullets in adjacent chambers, a click, then another pull. Spin or not?
- How is this like updating a forecast after a quarterly result?
Asked at Schonfeld, Quantitative Research, Central, 2022 (Wall Street Oasis):
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