Case 042Fund economics, NAV and LP decisionsCore
Talvir Capital charges a 20% performance fee over an 8% hurdle. At a gross return of 12% on Rs 1,000 crore, what fee does it earn under a hard hurdle and under a soft hurdle with full catch-up?
1The situation
Talvir Capital manages Rs 1,000 crore. Its term sheet says the manager earns a 20% performance fee on returns above an 8% hurdle, and the fund returns 12% gross this year, Rs 120 crore of profit. Leave the management fee aside for the comparison.
You are reviewing the fund for an allocator, and two drafts of the offering documents describe the hurdle differently: one as a hard hurdle, the other as a soft hurdle with a full catch-up. The allocator asks what the difference is worth.
2Your task
What performance fee does Talvir earn under each wording, what net return does the investor keep, and at what gross returns does the difference matter most?
Quick check
Under a soft hurdle with full catch-up, what fee does Talvir earn on the Rs 120 crore of profit?
Worked solution
Try it on paper, then open one step at a time.
30-second answerThe answer to give first
A hard hurdle pays Talvir Rs 8 crore and a soft hurdle with full catch-up pays Rs 24 crore, three times as much. The hard hurdle charges 20% only on the Rs 40 crore above 8%. The catch-up gives the manager everything above 8% until it holds 20% of all profit, which it reaches at a 10% gross return. The investor nets 11.2% under one wording and 9.6% under the other.
Step 1What does each wording mean?
Think of a salesperson paid a 20% commission on sales above a monthly target. Under one contract the commission is paid only on the sales above target; under the other, once the target is cleared, the commission is backdated to the first rupee. A hard hurdle charges the fee only on returns above the hurdle; a soft hurdle with full catch-upA clause that gives the manager all, or most, of the returns just above the hurdle until its share of total profit reaches the full performance fee rate. charges it on all the return once the hurdle is passed. The hurdle protects the investor's first 8% either way; the wording decides what happens after.
Step 2What fee does each produce at 12%?
Hard hurdle: the investor keeps the first Rs 80 crore, and the manager takes 20% of the Rs 40 crore above it, Rs 8 crore. The investor nets Rs 112 crore, 11.2%. Soft hurdle with full catch-up: the investor keeps the first Rs 80 crore, the manager then takes 100% of the next Rs 20 crore, and the last Rs 20 crore is split 80 to 20, so the manager ends with Rs 24 crore, exactly 20% of all the profit. The investor nets Rs 96 crore, 9.6%. The catch-up is complete once the manager's Rs 20 crore equals 20% of the Rs 100 crore earned so far, which happens at a 10% gross return.
Step 3At which returns does the wording matter most?
Below 8% neither wording pays a fee. Between 8% and 10% the catch-up hands the manager every rupee of return, so the investor's net return is stuck at 8%; above 10% the soft hurdle with catch-up charges the same as having no hurdle at all. The hard hurdle's advantage to the investor stays at Rs 16 crore at every return above 10%, 1.6% of the fund a year. That is why allocators read hurdle definitions line by line, and why the word soft on its own does not tell you enough: a soft hurdle without catch-up can mean something different again.
| Gross return | Hard hurdle fee, Rs crore | Soft with catch-up, Rs crore | Investor net, hard | Investor net, soft |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6% | 0.0 | 0.0 | 6.0% | 6.0% |
| 9% | 2.0 | 10.0 | 8.8% | 8.0% |
| 10% | 4.0 | 20.0 | 9.6% | 8.0% |
| 12% | 8.0 | 24.0 | 11.2% | 9.6% |
| 16% | 16.0 | 32.0 | 14.4% | 12.8% |
Two further lines complete the review. The management fee comes on top, so net returns are lower than these figures. And a high-water mark decides whether a fee is charged at all after a losing year. An allocator should model the fee on the fund's realistic range of returns, not at one point, because the catch-up's cost is concentrated just above the hurdle, where a modest year lands.
Where candidates lose it
The usual loss is computing 20% of the Rs 40 crore above the hurdle and giving Rs 8 crore for both wordings. The catch-up exists precisely to reverse that, and the interviewer wants the Rs 24 crore and the reason.
The other miss is calling a soft hurdle investor-friendly because it has a hurdle. Above a 10% gross return, the soft hurdle with full catch-up charges exactly what a fund with no hurdle would charge.
What the interviewer asks next
- What gross return makes the manager indifferent between the two wordings?
- How would a 50% catch-up, rather than 100%, change the fee at 12%?
- How does a high-water mark interact with the hurdle after a losing year?
- Why might a strong manager accept a hard hurdle?
Company names and figures are illustrative.
