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017You roll a fair die until the first 6 appears and are paid the sum of every roll, including the final 6. What is the expected payout?Quant and systematic fundsProp and quant trading firms
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What is the expected payout?
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21. The number of rolls until the first 6 averages 6, so there are on average 5 non-six rolls plus the 6. A roll known not to be a 6 is equally likely to be 1 to 5, so it averages 3, not 3.5, giving 5 x 3 + 6 = 21. Wald's identity confirms it: 6 expected rolls times 3.5 a roll is also 21, because a stop that looks only at past rolls does not bias the total.
Why is it tempting to get 23.5?
Suppose you keep buying scratch cards until one wins. Every card before the winner is, by definition, a loser, so those cards are worth less than an average card. The stopping rule changes the rolls before the stop: each one is known not to be a 6, so it averages 3, and valuing them at 3.5 overpays by 0.5 a roll, 2.5 in all. Five non-sixes at 3.5 plus a 6 is 23.5, which counts the high side twice: once in the 3.5 and again in the final 6.
In a typical run of 4, 1, 5, 2, 3 and then 6, the five rolls before the stop are non-sixes averaging 3 and the total is 21; 5 x 3 + 6 and 6 x 3.5 both give 21, while 5 x 3.5 + 6 = 23.5 wrongly treats the early rolls as ordinary rolls. How do the two routes agree?
Route one splits the sum: the expected number of non-six rolls times their average, plus the final 6. The count of rolls is a geometric wait with success chance 1/6, so it averages 6, of which 5 are non-sixes: 5 x 3 + 6 = 21. Route two is Wald's identityFor a stopping rule that uses only rolls already seen, the expected total equals the expected number of rolls times the average roll.: the expected total is the expected number of rolls times the average roll, 6 x 3.5 = 21. The low early rolls and the high final roll balance exactly.
The relationshipS the total paid N the number of rolls, including the 6 X a single roll, averaging 3.5 before any conditioning What it says in wordsCounted either as all rolls at 3.5 or as non-sixes at 3 plus a 6, the expected payout is 21.Why would a trading firm ask this?
Stopping rules are everywhere on a desk: exit at the first stop-loss hit, rebalance at the first breach of a band. The question checks whether you can tell when a stopping rule biases what you observe, as it does for the early rolls, and when it does not, as for the total. Say the condition too: Wald's identity needs the decision to stop to use only rolls already seen, and the expected number of rolls to be finite. A rule that could peek at the next roll would break it.
Where candidates lose it
The slip is 5 x 3.5 + 6 = 23.5. It treats the rolls before the 6 as ordinary rolls, when the stopping rule guarantees none of them is a 6, which pulls their average down to 3.
The opposite slip is to distrust 6 x 3.5 because stopping at a 6 seems to bias it. It does not: the total is unbiased for any stopping rule that looks only at the past. Give both routes and say why they agree.
What the interviewer asks next
- What is the expected payout if the final 6 is not paid?
- You stop at the first 5 or 6 instead. What is the expected payout?
- If you could choose to stop whenever you like, what would you pay to play?
018One hundred lockers start closed. Person 1 toggles every locker, person 2 toggles every second locker, person 3 every third, and so on up to person 100. Which lockers end open?Prop and quant trading firmsLong-short equity funds
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Which lockers end open?
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The ten perfect squares: 1, 4, 9, 16, 25, 36, 49, 64, 81 and 100. Locker n is toggled once by each person whose number divides n, so its final state depends on how many divisors n has. Divisors come in pairs, d and n/d, which cancel out. Only a perfect square has an unpaired divisor, its square root, so only squares are toggled an odd number of times and end open.
What decides whether one locker ends open?
A light switch flipped an even number of times ends where it started; flipped an odd number of times, it ends the other way. Each locker is a switch, flipped once for every divisor of its number, so the question is which numbers from 1 to 100 have an odd number of divisors. Locker 12 is touched by persons 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 and 12, six times, and ends closed.
Of the 100 lockers only the ten perfect squares end open, because locker 12 and every non-square has its divisors in pairs, an even number of toggles, while locker 36 and every square has one unpaired divisor, its square root. Why do only perfect squares have an odd number of divisors?
Pair every divisor d with n divided by d. For 12 the pairs are 1 and 12, 2 and 6, 3 and 4: six divisors, even. The pairing breaks only when a divisor is paired with itself, d = n/d, which happens exactly when n is a perfect square. For 36 the pairs are 1 and 36, 2 and 18, 3 and 12, 4 and 9, with 6 left over: nine divisors, odd, so locker 36 ends open. There are ten squares up to 100, so ten lockers.
The relationshipd a divisor of the locker number n n/d its partner divisor What it says in wordsDivisors cancel in pairs, and only a perfect square leaves one divisor without a partner.Why does a fund ask a puzzle like this?
It tests whether you look for structure before you simulate. Walking through a hundred people toggling lockers is hopeless in an interview; turning it into a question about divisors takes one sentence and makes the answer obvious. The move, recasting a process as a property you can count, is the one that turns a messy trading rule into a quantity you can compute. Check it on a small case out loud: with 10 lockers, 1, 4 and 9 end open.
Where candidates lose it
Candidates start simulating: person 1 opens everything, person 2 closes the evens, person 3 toggles multiples of 3, and they lose track by person 5. The interviewer wants you to stop and ask what decides one locker's final state.
The other miss is answering the primes. A prime is touched exactly twice, by person 1 and by the person with its own number, so every prime ends closed.
What the interviewer asks next
- Which lockers are toggled exactly three times?
- With 1,000 lockers, how many end open?
- Which locker under 100 is toggled the most, and how many times?
019Three dealers quote USD/INR at 84.00, EUR/USD at 1.10 and EUR/INR at 93.00, each a single price you can deal at. Is there an arbitrage, which way do you trade it, and what is the profit on EUR 1 million?Prop and quant trading firmsVolatility and relative value funds
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Which statement is right?
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Yes: the direct quote is rich by 60 paise, so buy euros through dollars and sell them for rupees at 93.00, making Rs 6 lakh on EUR 1 million before costs. The implied rate is 1.10 x 84.00 = 92.40 rupees per euro. Spend Rs 9.24 crore on USD 1.1 million, turn that into EUR 1 million, and sell the euros for Rs 9.30 crore. You finish in rupees, where you started, with Rs 6 lakh more.
How do you spot the mispricing in one line?
If one stall sells mangoes at Rs 100 a dozen and the stall next to it buys them back at Rs 10 each, you would buy dozens and sell singles all day. Every pair of currencies can be priced two ways, directly or through a third currency, and when the two prices differ you buy on the cheap route and sell on the rich one. Through dollars a euro costs 1.10 dollars at Rs 84.00 each: Rs 92.40. The direct dealer pays Rs 93.00. That 60 paise gap is the whole trade.
A euro costs Rs 92.40 when bought through dollars at 84.00 and 1.10 but fetches Rs 93.00 from the direct dealer, so running rupees to dollars to euros and back to rupees earns 60 paise a euro, Rs 6 lakh on EUR 1 million before costs. Step Trade You pay You receive 1 Buy USD with rupees at 84.00 Rs 9,24,00,000 USD 1,100,000 2 Buy EUR with dollars at 1.10 USD 1,100,000 EUR 1,000,000 3 Sell EUR for rupees at 93.00 EUR 1,000,000 Rs 9,30,00,000 Net, in rupees Rs 6,00,000 Starting and ending in rupees, the three legs turn Rs 9.24 crore into Rs 9.30 crore, a profit of Rs 6 lakh on EUR 1 million, before spreads and dealing costs. What stops this from being free money in practice?
Three things. Real quotes have a bid and an offer, and the gap survives only if it is wider than the three spreads you cross plus the cost of dealing. A 60 paise gap on a 92 rupee price is about 0.65%, far wider than dealer spreads in major currencies, which is why a gap that size would be traded away almost at once. And the legs must be done together: if one price moves before you finish, you are left holding an open currency position instead of a locked-in profit.
Where candidates lose it
The common slip is running the loop the wrong way round: selling euros through dollars and buying them directly. That locks in a 60 paise loss on every euro. Decide which route is rich before placing any leg, and say it out loud.
The second is quoting the profit in a mix of currencies or on the wrong notional. Start and end in the same currency; starting from rupees makes the answer a clean Rs 6 lakh on EUR 1 million.
What the interviewer asks next
- EUR/INR is quoted 92.95 / 93.05, USD/INR 83.99 / 84.01 and EUR/USD 1.09975 / 1.10025. Is there still an arbitrage?
- Why do gaps like this almost never appear in major currencies?
- If the third leg fails to fill, what position are you left with?
021A stock with 20% annual volatility and no drift starts at Rs 100. Roughly what is the chance it ends the year more than 10% higher, and what is the chance it touches Rs 110 at some point during the year?Quant and systematic fundsProp and quant trading firms
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How does the chance of touching 110 compare with the chance of finishing above it?
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About 31% to finish above Rs 110, and about 62% to touch it during the year. A 10% move is half of one year's 20% standard deviation, and a normal variable ends more than half a standard deviation up 30.9% of the time. By the reflection principle, every path that touches 110 and ends below has a mirror twin that ends above, so touching is twice as likely as finishing above: 61.7%.
Why is finishing above 110 about a one in three chance?
Scale the move by the volatility. Over one year the price spreads out with a standard deviation of about Rs 20, so Rs 110 is half a standard deviation above the start, and a normal variable finishes more than half a standard deviation up 30.9% of the time. Treating the price as an arithmetic random walk is close enough for a 10% move; a lognormal model, in which prices cannot go negative, gives a slightly lower figure, about 28%. Say you are approximating, and say which way the error runs.
A path that touches 110 and ends below it has a mirror twin, reflected in the barrier after the first touch, that ends above it, so the chance of touching 110 during the year, 61.7%, is twice the chance of finishing above it, 30.9%. Why is touching twice as likely as finishing above?
Think of a walker on a foggy path who is equally likely to step forward or back. Once she reaches a marker post, her remaining steps are a fair coin again: from the post she is as likely to end past it as short of it. So for every path that touches 110 and ends below, reflecting the part after the touch gives an equally likely path that ends above; touching paths split evenly between the two. Every path that ends above must have touched on the way, so the chance of touching is twice the chance of ending above.
The relationshipb the barrier, Rs 110 S_T the price at the end of the year 0.5 the barrier's distance in standard deviations: 10 / 20 What it says in wordsFor a driftless continuous walk, the chance of ever reaching a level is double the chance of finishing beyond it.Where does the factor of two matter on a desk?
Anything that triggers on a touch rather than on the finish. A stop-loss set 10% away is hit about twice as often as the price ends beyond it, and an option that pays on a touch is worth roughly twice one that pays only if the price finishes past the same level. The limitation: the factor of two holds for a driftless, continuously watched walk. Drift, jumps and checking the price only at the daily close all move it, and a checked-daily barrier is touched a little less often than a continuous one.
Where candidates lose it
The common error is answering the touch question with the finishing probability, 31%, as though the path does not matter. A price can visit 110 in March and be back at 100 by December, and the question asked about the visit.
The second is forgetting to scale by volatility. Ten per cent sounds small, but against 20% a year it is half a standard deviation, not a rare event. Say the scaling first, then the number.
What the interviewer asks next
- What is the chance the stock touches Rs 90 during the year?
- Roughly what is the chance it touches both 110 and 90?
- How does a positive drift change the ratio between touching and finishing above?
022Two independent, unbiased forecasts of next quarter's GDP growth have error standard deviations of 2% and 3%. How should you combine them, and how accurate is the blend?Quant and systematic funds
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What weight should the 2% forecast get?
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Weight them 9/13 and 4/13, about 69% and 31%, and the blend's error falls to about 1.66%. For independent unbiased forecasts the best weights are proportional to one over each error variance: 1/4 for the 2% forecast and 1/9 for the 3% one. The blended error variance is 1 over (1/4 + 1/9), which is 36/13, so its standard deviation is 1.66%, better than either forecast alone.
Why does blending two forecasts beat the better one?
Ask two people to guess the weight of a pumpkin at a village fair. One is usually closer, but their mistakes are unrelated, so averaging tends to cancel part of each. Independent errors partly cancel when you average, so even a weaker forecast adds information, provided it gets a smaller weight. Throwing the 3% forecast away leaves you at 2%; blending it in well gets you to 1.66%.
Blending with inverse-variance weights of 9/13 and 4/13 gives an error of 1.66%, lower than the better forecast's 2.00%, while equal weights give 1.80% and weights of 3/5 and 2/5 give 1.70%. The relationship\sigma_A, \sigma_B the two forecasts' error standard deviations, 2% and 3% w_A the weight on the sharper forecast What it says in wordsEach forecast is weighted by its precision, one over its variance, and the blend's precision is the sum of the two.Why inverse variance and not inverse error?
The blend's error variance is w squared times 4 plus (1 minus w) squared times 9. Setting its slope to zero gives w = 9/(4 + 9), so the weights follow one over the variance, which penalises the noisier forecast harder than one over the standard deviation would. Check the alternatives: equal weights give an error of 1.80%, weights of 3/5 and 2/5 give 1.70%, and the inverse-variance weights give the minimum, 1.66%.
What would you check before trusting the blend?
Two assumptions carry the answer. The forecasts must be unbiased and their errors independent; if both forecasters lean on the same survey, their errors are correlated and the gain from blending shrinks. With an error correlation of 0.5, the best blend gives the sharper forecast 6/7 of the weight and improves the error only from 2.00% to 1.96%. Ask where each forecast comes from before you average them.
Where candidates lose it
Candidates either average equally, which overweights the noisier forecast, or keep only the better one, which throws information away. Both miss that the right weights come from the variances.
The subtler slip is weighting by one over the standard deviation, 3/5 and 2/5. It is close but not optimal; state the inverse-variance rule and show that the blended error beats 2%.
What the interviewer asks next
- What if the two forecast errors have a correlation of 0.5?
- How would you estimate each forecaster's error variance in practice?
- One forecast is biased upwards by 0.5%. What do you do?
023A stock trades at 40 times forward earnings, pays out half its earnings as dividends, and investors want a 12% return. What long-run growth rate is the price implying?Long-short equity fundsGlobal macro funds
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What growth does the price imply?
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About 10.75% a year, for ever. In a constant-growth model the forward P/E equals the payout ratio divided by (required return minus growth). With a P/E of 40 and a payout of 0.5, r minus g must be 0.5/40 = 1.25%, so g = 12% - 1.25% = 10.75%. Retaining half its earnings, the company would need a return on equity of 21.5% for ever to fund that growth.
How does a P/E hide a growth assumption?
A flat that rents for Rs 30,000 a month and sells for Rs 1.2 crore is priced at 400 months of rent; a buyer paying that is quietly assuming the rent will grow. A price multiple is a compressed forecast: fix the return investors want and the share of earnings paid out, and the multiple pins down the growth the price needs. The constant-growth model, price equals next year's dividend over (r minus g), divided through by earnings, gives P/E = payout/(r - g).
Rearranging P/E = payout/(r - g) with a P/E of 40, a 50% payout and a 12% required return leaves a dividend yield of 1.25% and implied growth of 10.75% a year for ever, which needs a return on equity of 21.5%. The relationshipE_1 next year's earnings, so the P/E is forward payout the share of earnings paid as dividends, 0.5 r the return investors require, 12% g the constant growth rate the price implies What it says in wordsThe required return is the dividend yield plus growth, so growth is whatever is left after the yield.Is 10.75% for ever plausible?
Test it against the business. Growth funded by retained earnings is return on equity times the share retained, so 10.75% growth with half the earnings kept needs a return on equity of 21.5%, held for ever. Few businesses hold returns like that for decades, and no company can outgrow the economy it sells into indefinitely, so compare the figure with the nominal growth you expect for that economy and say it as your assumption. The price is not wrong by arithmetic; it is demanding by assumption.
How sensitive is the answer?
Very. Because r - g is only 1.25%, every point on the required return moves the implied growth by a full point: at 11% the price implies 9.75%, at 13% it implies 11.75%. Using trailing rather than forward earnings shifts it too: 40 = 0.5(1 + g)/(0.12 - g) gives 10.62%. A high multiple rests on a thin gap between two large numbers, so small changes in either swing the value.
Where candidates lose it
Candidates treat the P/E as if it were price over dividend and forget the payout, which gives r - g = 2.5% and growth of 9.5%. The payout ratio is what turns earnings into the dividends the model actually discounts.
The other miss is stopping at 10.75% without judging it. The question asks what the price implies; the strong answer adds the return on equity it needs and whether that is believable.
What the interviewer asks next
- What P/E would 6% growth for ever justify at the same payout and required return?
- How does a rise in the required return to 13% change the implied growth?
- Why is a constant-growth model a poor fit for a young, fast-growing company?
024Five rational pirates, ranked A to E by seniority, must split 100 gold coins. The most senior proposes a split and all vote; it passes if at least half vote in favour, the proposer included. Otherwise the proposer is thrown overboard and the next most senior proposes. Each pirate wants first to survive, then to maximise coins, and votes against when indifferent. What does A propose?Prop and quant trading firmsLong-short equity funds
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A proposes 98 for himself, 0 for B, 1 for C, 0 for D and 1 for E. Work backwards. With two pirates, D's own vote is half, so he keeps all 100. With three, C buys E with 1 coin. With four, B buys D with 1 coin. With five, A needs two votes beyond his own and buys the two pirates who get nothing in the four-pirate split, C and E, for one coin each.
Why start from the end?
Planning a train journey, you work back from when you must arrive, not forward from when you wake up. Each pirate votes by comparing the offer with what he would get if the proposal failed, so you can only price a vote once you know the next round's outcome, which means solving the smallest game first and working upwards. That method, backward induction, is the whole puzzle.
Solving from two pirates upwards gives splits of 100, 0 for two; 99, 0, 1 for three; 99, 0, 1, 0 for four; and 98, 0, 1, 0, 1 for five, because each proposer buys the pirates left with nothing in the next smaller game. How does each round play out?
Two pirates, D and E: D proposes 100 for himself, and his own vote is half, so it passes. Three pirates: C needs one more vote and buys E, who gets nothing in the two-pirate game, for 1 coin: 99, 0, 1. Four pirates: B needs one more vote and buys D, who gets nothing in the three-pirate game: 99, 0, 1, 0. Five pirates: A needs two more votes and buys C and E, both empty-handed in the four-pirate game: 98, 0, 1, 0, 1.
The relationshipn the number of pirates still aboard fallback coins what the voter gets if this proposal fails What it says in wordsA proposer needs half the votes and buys each one for a coin more than that pirate's next-round payoff.What is the interviewer really testing?
Whether you reason about the alternative each party faces rather than about fairness. A vote costs exactly one coin more than what the voter gets if the deal fails, so the cheapest supporters are the ones with the worst fallback. The same logic runs through any negotiation: a creditor backs a restructuring plan when it beats their recovery in liquidation, and support is cheapest from those whose alternative is worst. State the assumptions: perfect rationality, and a pirate who is indifferent votes against, which is why one coin, not zero, is needed.
Where candidates lose it
Candidates reach for a fair split, or reason forwards about who might be angry, and drown. Without the backward chain there is no way to know what any vote costs.
The second slip is offering coins to the wrong pirates: to B, or to D, who already does well in the four-pirate game. Buy the cheapest votes, from the pirates with nothing to lose, and say why.
What the interviewer asks next
- What happens with six pirates?
- What changes if a proposal needs a strict majority to pass?
- What if pirates vote yes when an offer merely equals their fallback?
028A stick is broken at two points chosen independently and uniformly at random along its length. What is the probability that the three pieces can form a triangle?Quant and systematic fundsProp and quant trading firms
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One in four. Three lengths make a triangle only if no piece is longer than the other two together, which for a stick of length 1 means no piece is longer than one half. Plot the two break points as a dot in the unit square. The dots that keep every piece under half fill two triangles of area 1/8 each, so the chance is 1/4.
What exactly has to be true for a triangle?
Try to make a triangle from three sticks where one is longer than the other two laid end to end: the short ones cannot reach each other across the long one. Three lengths form a triangle only if the longest is shorter than the sum of the other two, and with a total of 1 that means every piece must be under one half. That turns a geometry question into a single condition you can test on any pair of break points.
How do you turn two random breaks into an area?
Call the break points x and y, each uniform between 0 and 1. Every possible outcome is a dot in the unit square, and every dot is equally likely, so probability is area. Take the half where x is below y: the pieces are x, y minus x and 1 minus y, and all three are under half only when x is below 1/2, y is above 1/2 and y minus x is below 1/2. Those three lines cut out a triangle with corners (0, 1/2), (1/2, 1/2) and (1/2, 1), area 1/8. The half where y comes first gives its mirror image, another 1/8.
Each dot in the square is one pair of break points; only the two green triangles, each of area 1/8, keep every piece shorter than half the stick, so a triangle forms with probability 1/4. The red regions are also worth naming, because each one is a different piece being too long. Three failure regions of area 1/4 each are the first piece, the middle piece and the last piece exceeding half. They cannot overlap, since two pieces cannot both be longer than half, so the answer is 1 minus 3/4, which is 1/4, a second route to the same number.
Mention the variant, because interviewers often switch to it: break the stick once, then break the longer piece at a random point. The answer changes to about 0.386, which is 2 ln 2 minus 1, because the second break is no longer uniform over the whole stick. Knowing the setup changes the answer shows you are reading the question.
Where candidates lose it
The usual loss is guessing from symmetry, 1/2 or 1/3, without writing the condition. Once you say no piece may exceed half, the square and the area come quickly.
The second loss is solving only the case where x is left of y, getting 1/8 and forgetting the mirror half. Either break point is equally likely to be the left one, so the good region always comes in two pieces.
What the interviewer asks next
- Break the stick once, then break the longer piece at a random point. What is the chance now?
- What is the expected length of the longest piece?
- What is the probability that the three pieces form an acute triangle?
029You roll a fair six-sided die six times. What is the expected number of distinct faces you see?Quant and systematic fundsProp and quant trading firms
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About 3.99, so roughly four. Give each face its own yes-or-no: did it appear at least once? A face is missed in all six rolls with chance (5/6)^6, about 33.5%, so it appears with chance about 66.5%. The expected count is the sum of the six chances: 6 x (1 minus (5/6)^6), which is 3.9906.
Why not work out the chance of seeing exactly 1, 2, up to 6 faces?
You could, but each of those needs a fiddly count. There is a shortcut that works whenever the question asks for an expected count. Think of a teacher checking attendance: the expected number present is simply the sum, over pupils, of each pupil's chance of turning up. Write the total as a sum of yes-or-no indicators, one per face, and the expected total is the sum of their probabilities, whether or not they are independent. That rule is {term('linearity of expectation', 'The expected value of a sum equals the sum of the expected values, even when the parts depend on each other.')}, and it turns a hard count into one line.
What is the chance that a given face shows up?
It is easier to find the chance it does not. Each roll misses the face with chance 5/6, and the six rolls are independent, so the face is missed every time with chance (5/6)^6, which is 15,625 over 46,656, about 33.5%. So each face appears at least once with chance about 66.5%, and six faces give 3.99. The indicators are not independent, since seeing face 1 a lot leaves less room for face 2, but linearity does not care.
Each of the six faces appears at least once in six rolls with probability 66.5% and is missed with probability 33.5%, so the expected number of distinct faces is 6 x 0.6651, about 3.99. The relationshipf a face of the die, 1 to 6 (5/6)^6 the chance a given face is missed in all six rolls What it says in wordsThe expected number of faces seen is six times the chance any one face is seen.Give the general form and a sense check. With n faces and n rolls the answer is n(1 minus (1 minus 1/n)^n), which tends to n(1 minus 1/e), about 63% of n. For a die that predicts 3.79, and the exact 3.99 is a little higher because six is small. The same logic tells a desk how many distinct names a random sample of trades touches.
Where candidates lose it
The first loss is saying six, or five, from instinct. The chance that six rolls give six different faces is 720 over 46,656, about 1.5%, so repeats are the normal case.
The second loss is trying to build the full distribution of distinct faces under time pressure and running out of time. Say indicator variables in the first sentence and the question is a one-liner.
What the interviewer asks next
- How many rolls do you expect to need before you have seen all six faces?
- What is the expected number of faces that appear exactly once in six rolls?
- What is the variance of the number of distinct faces?
030Your fund owns 1% of a company's shares. On a normal day 0.2% of the company's shares change hands, and your desk will not trade more than 20% of the day's volume. How many trading days do you need to exit the position?Multi-manager platformsLong-short equity funds
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About 25 trading days, roughly five weeks. The market trades 0.2% of the shares a day and you take at most a fifth of that, so you can sell 0.04% of the company a day. A 1% stake divided by 0.04% a day is 25 days. In the desk's language the position is five days of volume, and exiting it without moving the price takes a month.
What is the one division that answers it?
Emptying a water tank through a tap that you are only allowed to open a fifth of the way: how long it takes is the tank size divided by the flow you actually use. Days to exit equals position size divided by your daily selling capacity, and capacity is market volume times your participation cap. Here that is 1% over (0.2% x 20%), or 1% over 0.04%: 25 days. Keeping everything in percent of shares means you never need the share count or the price.
Selling 0.04% of the company each day, 20% of the daily 0.2% volume, the 1% stake falls in equal steps and is fully sold only after 25 trading days, with 0.80% still held after the first week. Why does a portfolio manager care about this number?
Because the price can move a long way in 25 days. A position you cannot exit quickly carries more risk than its daily volatility suggests: if the stock falls 2% a day for a week, you have sold only a fifth of it. That is why many desks cap a position at a set number of days of volume, often a few days, and why liquidity sits beside volatility in position sizing. The measure has a name, days to liquidatePosition size divided by the volume you can realistically trade in a day; a common liquidity limit on hedge fund books., and interviewers like hearing it.
Say the limitations. Volume is not steady; it dries up exactly when you most want to sell, and in a sell-off everyone is trying to do the same thing. A 20% participation rate also moves the price against you, so the real exit costs more than the screen price. A stronger answer adds that you would stress the calculation with half the normal volume, which gives 50 days.
Where candidates lose it
The fast wrong answer is five days: 1% divided by 0.2%. It assumes you can be all the volume in the stock, which would crush the price. The participation cap is the whole point of the question.
The second loss is converting to shares and rupees before dividing. Everything is already a percentage of the same share count, so one division does it. Say the answer, then say why liquidity is a risk in its own right.
What the interviewer asks next
- Volume halves in a sell-off. How long now, and what would you do in the first week?
- The fund has a rule of no more than five days to liquidate. How big can the position be?
- How would you estimate the price impact of selling 20% of volume every day?
