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080A fund holds 30% in IT stocks against a 20% benchmark weight. The IT sector returned 5% while the whole benchmark returned 12%. Separately, its bank stocks, a 25% weight, beat the bank index by 3 points. Split the fund's active return into an allocation effect and a selection effect.Fund research and ratingsIndian AMCs
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What did the IT overweight do to relative performance?
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Allocation cost 0.70% and selection added 0.75%, a net active return of about plus 0.05%. The IT overweight is 10 points in a sector that trailed the benchmark by 7 points: 0.10 x (5% minus 12%) is minus 0.7%. The bank stocks beat their index by 3 points on a 25% weight: 0.25 x 3% is plus 0.75%. Good stock picking almost exactly paid for a poor sector bet.
What is the difference between allocation and selection?
Picture a selector who picks four spinners for a pitch that suits pace, but whose four spinners bowl better than any other spinners in the country would have. Two separate decisions: how many of each kind, and which ones. Allocation measures the first decision, sector weights against the benchmark's weights; selection measures the second, how the stocks chosen inside a sector did against that sector. Splitting them tells a fund research team whether a manager's skill lies in calling sectors or in picking stocks, which matters more than the total when deciding what to trust next.
The relationshipw_p, w_b the fund's and the benchmark's weight in the sector R_s the sector index return R_b the whole benchmark's return r_s the return on the stocks the fund actually held in that sector What it says in wordsAllocation is the extra weight times how the sector did against the whole benchmark; selection is the weight held times how the chosen stocks did against their sector.The 10 point IT overweight cost 0.70% because IT trailed the benchmark by 7 points, and bank stocks that beat their index by 3 points on a 25% weight added 0.75%, leaving an active return of only plus 0.05%. Why is allocation measured against the whole benchmark rather than against zero?
Because the extra 10% in IT had to come from somewhere, and the alternative was the benchmark itself. An overweight in a sector that makes money still costs you if that sector made less than everything else you could have held. Say the assumptions behind the split out loud: the bank weight matches the benchmark's, so banks carry no allocation effect; the IT stocks held matched the IT index, so IT carries no selection effect; and the 10 points taken from other sectors came from sectors that earned the benchmark's 12%.
One detail an interviewer may probe. Using the fund's 25% weight in the selection term folds in what the BrinsonThe Brinson method, named after the authors who set it out in the 1980s, splits a fund active return into allocation, selection and an interaction term. framework calls the interaction effect; the textbook version uses the benchmark's weight and reports interaction separately. With the bank weights equal here, both give the same 0.75%.
Where candidates lose it
Candidates multiply the overweight by IT's own return, 10% x 5%, and call the IT bet a gain of 0.5%. That ignores what the money would have earned in the rest of the benchmark, and it turns a costly decision into a profitable-looking one.
The other slip is netting everything into plus 0.05% and calling the manager roughly neutral. The split is the whole point: plus 0.75 on stocks and minus 0.70 on sectors describes a good picker whose sector calls are giving the gains away.
What the interviewer asks next
- What if the fund had been underweight IT by 10 points instead?
- The bank index itself beat the benchmark. Where does that show up?
- Over three years, which of the two effects would you trust more as evidence of skill, and why?
090Fund A's returns have a correlation of 0.9 with the index. Fund A's volatility is 24% a year and the index's is 16%. When the index moves 1%, how much does fund A typically move, and why is the correlation not the answer?Fund research and ratingsGlobal asset managers
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When the index moves 1%, fund A typically moves about:
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About 1.35%: beta is the correlation times the ratio of the two volatilities. Correlation of 0.9 says the fund's moves line up closely with the index; the ratio 24 over 16 says the fund's moves are 1.5 times as large. Together, 0.9 x 1.5 is 1.35. Correlation measures how tightly the points hug the line, beta measures how steep the line is, and a fund can have a high correlation with a beta below one.
What is the difference between how tight and how steep?
Two friends walking a dog on a lead: the lead's length sets how far the dog can stray, and the dog's pace sets how far it travels for each step you take. A short lead says nothing about whether the dog walks faster or slower than you. Correlation is the lead, how closely the fund's moves track the index's; beta is the pace, how far the fund moves for each 1% the index moves. They are related, but they answer different questions, and confusing them is the commonest slip in fund statistics.
The relationship\beta the slope: the fund's typical move for a 1% index move \rho correlation, how tightly fund and index move together, 0.9 \sigma annual volatility of the fund, 24%, and of the index, 16% What it says in wordsBeta is correlation stretched by how much more the fund swings than the index.Fund A, correlation 0.9, and fund B, correlation 0.6, share the same slope of 1.35 against the index, but fund A's points hug the line while fund B's scatter widely, which is the difference between beta and correlation. Can two funds have the same beta and very different correlations?
Yes, and the figure shows it. Fund B has a correlation of only 0.6 but a volatility of 36%, so its beta is 0.6 x 36 / 16, also 1.35. Both funds move 1.35% for a 1% index move on average, but fund B's actual months scatter far from that line, because most of its swings come from things the index does not explain. The square of correlation measures the share explained: 81% of fund A's variance comes from the index against 36% of fund B's. For a fund researcher that changes the reading of beta itself: fund A's 1.35 is a reliable guide to a typical month, fund B's is an average around which a single month can land almost anywhere.
One more asymmetry worth having ready. Correlation is the same whichever way round you put the two series, but the slope is not: regressing the index on the fund gives 0.9 x 16 / 24, or 0.6. Beta always needs a direction, and for a fund it is the fund's return explained by the index. Both figures are estimates from past returns and shift with the window chosen, so quote them with the period they came from.
Where candidates lose it
The fastest wrong answer is 0.9%, read straight off the correlation. It sounds right because both numbers describe how fund and index relate, but correlation is capped at one and carries no information about size of moves, so it cannot be a slope.
The next slip is 1.5%, the volatility ratio, which forgets that 10% of the fund's movement has nothing to do with the index. Give the formula, then say in a sentence that correlation is tightness and beta is steepness.
What the interviewer asks next
- What would fund A's beta be if its correlation with the index fell to 0.5?
- Can a fund have a negative correlation and still lose money when the index falls?
- Why might a fund's measured beta change when you switch from daily to monthly returns?
091What lump sum today is equivalent to a pension of Rs 50,000 a month for 25 years, if money can earn 7% a year? And why is that so far below the Rs 1.5 crore that the pension will actually pay out?Indian AMCsDistribution and sales
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Roughly what lump sum today matches the pension?
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About Rs 70.7 lakh, under half of the Rs 1.5 crore paid out. Discount each of the 300 monthly payments of Rs 50,000 at 7% a year, about 0.58% a month, and add them up. Payments in the first years are worth almost their face value; payments in year 25 are worth less than a fifth of it. Lump sum and pension are equivalent because Rs 70.7 lakh invested at 7% would pay exactly Rs 50,000 a month for 25 years.
Why is a rupee paid later worth less today?
A relative offers you Rs 1 lakh either today or in ten years. Taking it today is better even with no inflation at all, because you could put it in a deposit and have well over Rs 1 lakh in ten years. The value today of a future payment is the amount you would need to invest now to produce it, so the longer the wait, the smaller that amount. A pension is a long string of future payments, and each one has its own wait. The lump-sum value is the sum of all those discounted payments.
Each year of the pension pays Rs 6 lakh, but discounted at 7% the first year is worth Rs 5.78 lakh today and the twenty-fifth only Rs 1.08 lakh, so 25 years of payments totalling Rs 1.5 crore are worth about Rs 70.7 lakh today. How do you add up 300 discounted payments without a spreadsheet?
Use the annuity formula, which is the sum of a series that shrinks by the same factor each month. With a monthly rate of 7% divided by 12 and 300 payments, each rupee of monthly pension is worth about Rs 141.5 today, so Rs 50,000 a month is worth about Rs 70.7 lakh. A quick check by years: Rs 6 lakh a year for 25 years at 7%, discounted once a year, gives about Rs 69.9 lakh, close because monthly payments arrive a little earlier on average.
The relationshipW the monthly pension, Rs 50,000 i the monthly rate, 7% divided by 12 n the number of monthly payments, 300 What it says in wordsThe lump sum is the monthly payment times a factor that adds up every payment's discount for its own wait.Where does most of the gap come from?
From the back half of the pension. At 7%, money doubles in about ten years, so every payment after roughly year 10 is worth less than half its face value today, and the last ones are worth under a fifth. The first ten years pay Rs 60 lakh and are worth about Rs 43.1 lakh; the last fifteen pay Rs 90 lakh and are worth only about Rs 27.7 lakh. For an adviser comparing a pension offer with a lump sum, this is the number that matters, and the rate is the assumption that moves it most: at a lower rate the lump sum needed rises, at a higher one it falls.
Two limits to state. The 7% must be a rate the client could realistically earn with similar safety; using a risky return to discount a guaranteed pension flatters the lump sum. And Rs 50,000 a month is fixed in rupees, so its buying power in year 25 is far smaller than today; if the pension rises with inflation, its value is much higher.
Where candidates lose it
The common error is quoting Rs 1.5 crore, or something near it, because that is what the client will receive. It treats a rupee in year 25 as worth a rupee today, which is exactly what the question is testing.
The overcorrection is discounting the whole Rs 1.5 crore by 25 years and getting about Rs 28 lakh, as if all the money arrived on the last day. Most of it arrives much earlier. Discount payment by payment, or use the annuity factor, and say the rate is an assumption.
What the interviewer asks next
- The pension rises 5% a year. Roughly how does the lump-sum value change?
- The client is offered Rs 60 lakh now instead of the pension. What discount rate makes the two equal, roughly?
- Why might the right discount rate for a government pension differ from that for a private one?
094An equity fund keeps 8% of its assets in cash earning 6% a year, while the stocks it holds return 13%. How much does the cash cost investors each year, and in what kind of market does the cash pay for itself?Fund research and ratingsIndian AMCs
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What does the 8% cash holding cost the fund in a year when stocks return 13%?
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About 0.56% a year when stocks return 13%, and the cash pays for itself only when stocks return less than 6%. The cash earns 6% instead of 13% on 8% of the fund: 0.08 x 7 points is 0.56%, so the fund returns 12.44%. If stocks fall 20%, the same cash means the fund loses 17.92%, a cushion of 2.08 points. Cash is a cost whenever stocks beat cash and a cushion when they do not.
Why is the cost the gap and not the whole return?
Keeping some money in a savings account rather than a share portfolio does not cost you the shares' return; it costs the difference between the shares' return and the interest the account pays. Cash drag is the cash weight multiplied by the gap between what the stocks earned and what the cash earned, not by the stocks' whole return. With 8% in cash, 13% on stocks and 6% on cash, the fund loses 0.08 x 7, or 0.56 points, against a fully invested version of itself.
With 8% in cash at 6%, the fund trails its stocks by 0.56 points when they rise 13% but loses only 17.92% when they fall 20%, a 2.08 point cushion, so the cash costs money in rising markets and saves it in falling ones. The relationshipc the share of the fund held in cash, 8% R_s the return on the stocks held, 13% R_c the return on cash, 6% What it says in wordsThe fund earns a weighted mix of the two returns, and the drag is the cash weight times how far stocks beat cash.When does the cash earn its keep?
Whenever stocks return less than cash. The breakeven is exactly the cash rate, 6% here: above it the cash costs, below it the cash helps. In a year when stocks fall 20%, the fund falls only 17.92%, because 8% of it earned plus 6% instead of minus 20%. Over ten years of 13% stock returns, though, the drag compounds: Rs 1 lakh grows to about Rs 3.39 lakh fully invested and about Rs 3.23 lakh with the cash, a difference of about Rs 16,500.
Say why funds hold cash at all before judging it. Some is needed to pay redeeming investors without forced selling; some is new money not yet invested; some is a deliberate call that prices are high. The first two are a cost of running an open-ended fund; only the third is a market view, and it should be judged like any other bet, by whether it paid over a full cycle. A fund that holds a lot of cash and calls it caution is making a market-timing bet, whatever it calls it.
Where candidates lose it
The common slip is 8% of 13%, or 1.04%, which treats the cash as earning nothing. Cash in a fund sits in short-term instruments and earns something, so only the gap is lost.
The second loss is calling cash a pure cost. The interviewer wants the other half: in a falling market cash cushions, and the breakeven is the cash rate itself. Give the 0.56% and the 2.08 point cushion together.
What the interviewer asks next
- How would you tell whether a fund's cash is for redemptions or a market call?
- If the fund's stocks have a beta of 1.1, what is its overall market exposure with 8% in cash?
- A fund could hold index futures instead of cash. How would that change the drag?
095An investor bought 1,000 units of a fund at Rs 20 in January and 1,000 more at Rs 30 in June. She now redeems 1,200 units at Rs 35. On a first-in-first-out basis, what is the gain on the units sold, and why does an average-cost view give the wrong figure?Registrars and transfer agentsDistribution and sales
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What is the gain on the 1,200 units under first-in-first-out?
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Rs 16,000: the redemption uses all 1,000 January units and 200 June units. The January units gain Rs 15 each, Rs 15,000; the 200 June units gain Rs 5 each, Rs 1,000. An average cost of Rs 25 gives Rs 12,000, because it spreads the cheap January units across units still held. It also loses the purchase dates, which decide each lot's holding period.
Which units does a redemption actually sell?
Think of a shop's milk shelf: staff push the oldest cartons to the front so they sell first. Under first-in-first-out, a redemption is matched against the oldest units still held, lot by lot, so each unit sold carries the price and the date of the purchase it came from. That is the convention commonly used for mutual fund units in India; confirm how it applies to the investor's own folio. Here the January lot of 1,000 goes first, and only then 200 from June.
Redeeming 1,200 units takes all 1,000 January units bought at Rs 20 and 200 June units bought at Rs 30, a gain of Rs 16,000 at Rs 35, whereas an average cost of Rs 25 would show Rs 12,000 and lose the purchase dates. The relationship1,000, 200 units taken from the January and June lots 35 the redemption price, Rs a unit 20, 30 the purchase price of each lot What it says in wordsEach lot's units are matched to their own cost, starting with the oldest, and the gains are added.Why does the average-cost figure mislead?
Because it pretends every unit cost Rs 25. The units actually sold were mostly the cheap January ones, so the true gain is higher now, Rs 16,000 against Rs 12,000. The total gain over the whole holding does not change, Rs 20,000 once all 2,000 units are sold at Rs 35; what changes is how much of it is counted now and how much later. The 800 units left have a cost of Rs 30 under first-in-first-out, Rs 24,000, not the Rs 20,000 an average-cost view would record.
The dates matter as much as the amounts. Suppose she redeems the following March and the line between short and long term is twelve months, an assumption here; confirm the current rule for the fund type. Then the January units are long term and the 200 June units short term, so the Rs 15,000 and the Rs 1,000 may be taxed differently. An average-cost view cannot even ask the question, because it has thrown away the dates. Registrars track every purchase as a separate lot for exactly this reason.
Where candidates lose it
The tidy-looking error is averaging the cost to Rs 25 and quoting Rs 12,000. It feels fair because both purchases were the same size, but it assigns June's higher cost to units that were bought in January.
The second loss is getting Rs 16,000 and ignoring the holding period. A good answer says the redemption spans two lots with two purchase dates, and that the split matters for tax.
What the interviewer asks next
- She redeems the remaining 800 units at Rs 40. What is the gain?
- How would a systematic investment plan with 36 monthly purchases complicate this?
- Why might an investor prefer to redeem from a fund where the oldest units have the smallest gain?
097A client keeps Rs 5 lakh in a fixed deposit at 7% as an emergency fund while carrying Rs 2 lakh of credit card debt at 36% a year. What does this arrangement cost her each year, and why do so many people do it?Wealth and advisoryDistribution and sales
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Roughly what does holding both cost her a year, before tax?
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About Rs 58,000 a year before tax, and more after it. On the matching Rs 2 lakh she pays 36%, Rs 72,000, while that slice of the deposit earns 7%, Rs 14,000. Clearing the card from the deposit saves the difference, and leaves Rs 3 lakh in the emergency fund. People keep both because they treat the deposit and the debt as separate pots with separate jobs, when money is interchangeable.
Why does holding both cost money?
Imagine filling a bucket at 7 litres a minute while a hole at the bottom drains 36. Keeping the tap on does not save the water; plugging the hole does. Savings and debt in the same household net against each other: Rs 2 lakh in the deposit and Rs 2 lakh owed on the card leave her net worth exactly where it would be with neither, except that one pays her 7% and the other charges her 36%. Her net worth is Rs 3 lakh whichever way she arranges it; the only thing the arrangement changes is the interest bill.
On the matching Rs 2 lakh she pays Rs 72,000 a year on the card and earns Rs 14,000 on the deposit, so keeping both costs about Rs 58,000 a year before tax and about Rs 62,200 after an assumed 30% tax on the deposit interest. The relationshipD the debt that the deposit could repay, Rs 2 lakh r_{card} the card's interest rate, 36% a year r_{FD} the deposit rate, 7% a year What it says in wordsThe yearly cost is the overlap between savings and debt times the gap between the two rates.Why do sensible people do it anyway?
Because people keep money in mental pots with labels, an idea behavioural economists call mental accounting. The deposit is labelled 'emergency', and spending it feels like breaking a promise; the card is labelled 'monthly spending', and its balance feels like a bill to be dealt with later. There is a real worry underneath too: if she empties the deposit, where does the money come from in a crisis? The answer is that once the card is cleared, its unused limit is itself an emergency line, and she still has Rs 3 lakh in the deposit.
Say what the simple figure leaves out. Deposit interest is taxed, so at an assumed 30% slab she keeps only Rs 9,800 of the Rs 14,000, and the cost rises to about Rs 62,200. Card interest is usually charged monthly, which makes 36% a year closer to 43% when compounded. Every refinement makes holding both more expensive, not less, which is why this is among the cheapest wins an adviser can find. Confirm the client's actual tax slab and card terms before quoting her a figure.
Where candidates lose it
Candidates quote Rs 72,000, the card interest alone, which forgets that clearing the card means giving up the deposit's interest on the same money. The true saving is the gap between the two rates.
The other loss is answering only the arithmetic. The question asks why people do it, and the interviewer wants mental accounting named, along with the real concern about emergencies and how to address it.
What the interviewer asks next
- She worries she will run up the card again after clearing it. How would you respond?
- What if the debt were a home loan at 8.5% rather than a card at 36%?
- How would you explain this to a client without making her feel foolish?
098You roll a fair die and are paid the face value in thousands of rupees. After seeing the first roll you may reroll once, but then you must take the second roll. When should you reroll, and what is the game worth?Indian AMCsGlobal asset managers
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Which first rolls should you reroll?
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Reroll on 1, 2 or 3; keep 4, 5 or 6. The game is worth 4.25 thousand, Rs 4,250. A reroll is a new die worth 3.5 on average, so keep any face above 3.5. Half the time you reroll and expect 3.5; the other half you keep 4, 5 or 6, worth 5 on average. So the game is 0.5 x 3.5 + 0.5 x 5, or 4.25. The right to reroll adds Rs 750 to a plain roll's Rs 3,500.
How do you decide whether to keep a roll?
A friend offers you a sealed envelope known to hold Rs 350 on average, in exchange for the Rs 300 note in your hand. You swap; if the note were Rs 500, you would keep it. Keep any outcome that beats what the alternative is expected to give, and the alternative here is a fresh roll worth 3.5 on average. So 4, 5 and 6 are kept and 1, 2 and 3 are thrown back. The decision depends only on comparing the face in front of you with 3.5.
Each first roll below the reroll's expected 3.5 is thrown back and each roll above it is kept, which makes the game worth 4.25, or Rs 4,250, against Rs 3,500 for a single roll with no option. The relationship3/6 the chance the first roll is 1, 2 or 3 and you reroll 3.5 the expected value of the reroll (4+5+6)/6 the expected value from the faces you keep What it says in wordsWeight each branch by its chance: rerolled faces are worth 3.5, kept faces are worth themselves.Why is the option worth Rs 750, and what if there are more rerolls?
Without the reroll you get 3.5 on average. The option lets you throw away the low outcomes and replace them with an average one, so it lifts the value to 4.25: an option is worth something because you choose after seeing the outcome, and its value comes entirely from the bad outcomes it lets you escape. With two rerolls, work backwards: the last reroll is worth 3.5, so the middle roll is kept on 4 or more and is worth 4.25; the first roll is then kept only on 5 or 6, because 4 is below 4.25. The game rises to 4.67.
The fund-desk parallel is any decision with a later choice built in: a redemption right, a switch option, a stop-loss. Each one is worth what it lets you avoid, and each has a threshold set by what the alternative is expected to give. Saying the general rule, keep what beats the continuation value, is what lifts the answer above a piece of arithmetic.
Where candidates lose it
The common slip is setting the threshold by feel, keeping 3 because it is close to average or rerolling 4 because it feels low. The cutoff is exactly the reroll's expected value, 3.5, and a whole number on a die is either above it or below it.
The second loss is computing the value as the simple average of the best choices without weighting by probability. Say the threshold, then weight each branch: half the time 3.5, half the time 5.
What the interviewer asks next
- With two rerolls allowed, what is the game worth? (4.67)
- What would you pay to play if each reroll cost Rs 500?
- If the payout were the face value squared, would the threshold change?
099An equity fund is 95% invested, with 5% in cash, and the stocks it holds have a portfolio beta of 1.2. What is its effective market exposure, and what should an investor expect if the market falls 10%?Risk and complianceIndian AMCs
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What is the fund's effective market exposure?
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About 114% of the market, so a 10% fall would be expected to cost the fund about 11.4%. Effective exposure is the invested weight times the beta of what is held: 0.95 x 1.2 = 1.14. The 5% in cash looks cautious, but the stocks are more sensitive than the market, and that more than cancels the cash. A typical 10% fall in the index maps to about -11.4% for the fund, before stock-specific moves.
Why can a fund with cash carry more market risk than the index?
Two drivers on the same road: one drives only 95% of the distance but at 1.2 times the speed of traffic, the other drives all the way at traffic speed. The first covers more ground per hour despite stopping short. Market exposure is how much money is in stocks multiplied by how strongly those stocks move with the market, so a small cash buffer can be more than undone by holding high-beta stocks. Here 95% invested at a beta of 1.2 gives an exposure of 114%, more than a fully invested index fund.
A fund 95% invested in stocks with a beta of 1.2 has an effective exposure of 114%, more than the index, while a fully invested fund with a beta of 0.9 has only 90%, so the cash level alone says little about market risk. The relationshipw_{equity} the share of the fund in stocks, 95% \beta_{stocks} the beta of the stock portfolio, 1.2 w_{cash} the cash share, 5%, with a beta of zero What it says in wordsA fund's beta is the weighted average of the betas of what it holds, and cash has a beta of zero.What should the investor expect in a 10% fall, and how firm is that?
About -11.4%, as a central estimate. The cash adds a sliver of interest, about 0.025% over a month at an assumed 6% a year, too small to change the answer. Beta is an average relationship, not a promise: in any one fall, the fund's own stocks can do better or worse than the beta implies, and betas measured from calm periods often rise in a sell-off. So -11.4% is the expected fund move, with a range around it that depends on how much of the fund's risk is stock-specific.
For a risk desk the lesson is about which number to monitor. A fund manager who says 'we are defensive, we hold 5% cash' may be running more market risk than a fully invested peer. Report exposure as invested weight times beta, not cash level, when judging how a fund will behave in a fall. The fully invested fund with a beta of 0.9 in the figure has 90% exposure and would be expected to fall about 9% in the same move.
Where candidates lose it
The common answer is 95%, read straight from the cash level, which treats every stock as moving one for one with the market. It is the answer a fund's marketing would like you to give.
The other slip is quoting 120% and forgetting the cash. Both numbers matter, and the answer is their product. Then add one sentence on beta being an estimate, so the expected fall is a centre, not a forecast.
What the interviewer asks next
- What cash level would bring this fund's effective exposure back to 100%?
- The fund uses index futures worth 10% of assets on top. What is its exposure now?
- Why might the measured beta of the stocks rise during a market fall?
100A central bank cuts rates by 50 basis points. For a stock valued as next year's earnings divided by (r minus g), with the required return r falling from 12% to 11.5% and growth g at 7%, what happens to the fair P/E? And why might the market fall anyway?PIMCOLos Angeles · 2024
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What happens to the fair P/E if growth stays at 7%?
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The fair P/E rises from 20x to about 22.2x, about 11%, if growth holds. P/E equals 1 over (r minus g): 1/0.05 is 20x and 1/0.045 is 22.2x. But a cut often comes because the economy is weakening. If growth expectations fall to 6.5%, the gap is back to 5 points and the P/E is unchanged; at 6%, the P/E falls to 18.2x. The market may also have priced the cut in already.
Why does a small rate cut move the P/E so much?
Think of a ladder leaning against a wall: move its foot a few centimetres when it is nearly upright and the top barely moves; move it when the ladder is almost flat and the top drops a long way. The P/E depends on the gap between the required return and growth, and when that gap is small, a half-point change in it moves the P/E by a large fraction. Here the gap goes from 5 points to 4.5, a tenth smaller, and the fair P/E rises by about 11%.
The relationshipP/E the price over next year's earnings r the return investors require, falling from 12% to 11.5% g the long-run growth rate of earnings, 7% What it says in wordsThe fair multiple is one over the gap between the required return and growth, so narrowing the gap lifts the multiple.With growth held at 7%, the cut lifts the fair P/E from 20.0x to 22.2x, but if the cut comes with growth expectations falling to 6.5% the P/E stays at 20.0x, and at 6% it drops to 18.2x, 9% below where it began. So why might the market fall on a rate cut?
Three reasons, all visible in the formula. First, growth: central banks usually cut because they see the economy slowing, and if the market lowers its growth estimate by as much as the cut lowers r, the gap and the P/E do not change at all; lower it by more and the P/E falls, to 18.2x at 6% growth. Second, expectations: if a 50 basis point cut was fully expected, it was already in the price, and only the surprise moves the market; a cut smaller than hoped can disappoint. Third, earnings themselves: E in the ratio is next year's earnings, and a weakening economy can lower that number even as the multiple rises.
Say the simplification. Writing P/E as 1 over (r minus g) assumes all earnings are paid out and growth is steady forever; with partial payout, the numerator is the payout ratio instead of one. The direction of every effect survives, but the sizes are illustrative. The general point holds firmly: a rate cut raises fair value only if what it says about growth does not undo it.
Where candidates lose it
The common slip is assuming the P/E rises by about the size of the cut, half a percent. The P/E moves on the gap between r and g, and a half-point change in a five-point gap shifts the P/E by about 11%.
The other loss is answering only the first half. The question is designed to test whether you know why markets can fall on good-sounding news: say that a cut carries information about growth, and that expected cuts are already in the price.
What the interviewer asks next
- What growth rate would leave the fair P/E exactly unchanged after the cut?
- Why does the same cut matter more for a high-growth stock than for a low-growth one?
- How might a rate cut affect a bank's earnings differently from a consumer company's?
Asked at PIMCO, Product & Strategy, Los Angeles, 2024 (Wall Street Oasis):
had only one 'technical' question about the effect of a rate cut on equity prices
