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030You have two ropes and a lighter. Each rope takes exactly 60 minutes to burn from one end to the other, but it burns unevenly, so half the length does not mean half the time. How do you measure exactly 45 minutes?Asset managementReal assets
Try it first
What does lighting a rope at both ends give you, if it burns unevenly?
Show the worked solution
Light rope 1 at both ends and rope 2 at one end, together. When rope 1 burns out, light the other end of rope 2; when rope 2 burns out, 45 minutes have passed. Rope 1 lasts 30 minutes because two flames share its 60 minutes of burning. At that moment rope 2 has 30 minutes left, and lighting its other end halves that to 15. 30 plus 15 is 45.
Why does uneven burning not spoil the halving?
Two people eating one plate of food from opposite sides finish it in half the time one person would take, whether the food is piled high on one side or spread evenly. They simply meet off-centre. A rope holds 60 minutes of burning in total, and two flames consume it twice as fast, so it is gone in 30 minutes wherever the flames happen to meet. The unevenness decides the place, never the time. That is the only fact the puzzle needs.
Rope 1, lit at both ends, is gone after 30 minutes even though its flames meet away from the middle. Rope 2, lit at one end, has 30 minutes of burning left at that moment, and lighting its other end halves that to 15 minutes, ending at 45. How do you know rope 2 has exactly 30 minutes left at the half-hour?
Rope 2 has been burning from one end for 30 minutes, so it has used 30 of its 60 minutes of material, whatever length that turned out to be. You never measure length; you only ever track time used and time left. Lighting the far end of what remains halves the 30 minutes left, and the rope finishes 15 minutes later. Say the timeline in that order and the answer is audible.
Interviewers often extend it: with the same two ropes you can also time 15, 30, 60 and 90 minutes, each by deciding which ends are burning at which moment. Answering one extension shows you own the principle rather than a memorised trick.
Why would a real asset desk ask this? It is a clean test of whether you separate the thing you can measure from the thing that is noisy. A rent roll is lumpy month to month; the annual total is what the valuation rests on. Saying that link in one sentence costs nothing.
Where candidates lose it
Candidates try to cut or fold the ropes, or to reason about lengths, which the uneven burning makes useless. The whole question is set up to see whether you let go of length and think only in minutes of burning.
The second slip is lighting rope 2's second end at the start. Rope 2 must be lit at one end at minute 0 so that exactly 30 minutes of it are used up when rope 1 finishes.
What the interviewer asks next
- Using the same two ropes, how do you measure 15 minutes?
- With three ropes, what is the longest time you can measure beyond 60 minutes?
- Can you measure 20 minutes with two ropes? Why or why not?
053You have nine bags of coins that look identical. Eight weigh the same and one is lighter. Using a balance scale with no weights, what is the fewest number of weighings that always finds the light bag?Asset management
Try it first
What is the fewest weighings that is guaranteed to work?
Show the worked solution
Two weighings. Put three bags on each side and leave three aside. Whichever side rises holds the light bag; if the pans balance, it is among the three on the table. Take that group of three and weigh one bag against another: the one that rises is light, and if they balance, it is the third. A balance gives three outcomes per weighing, and three times three covers nine bags.
Why is halving the pile the wrong instinct?
Halving is what you would do with a question that answers yes or no, like guessing a number between 1 and 100. A balance tells you more than that. A balance scale has three outcomes, left pan rises, right pan rises, or level, so each weighing should split the suspects into three equal groups, not two. The group left on the table is not wasted: a level balance is information too. With four and four plus one aside you would learn little from a level result except that the odd bag is the spare one, and an unlucky run needs three weighings.
Weighing three bags against three splits nine suspects into three groups of three, whichever way the pans move, and weighing one bag against one then names the light bag, so two weighings give nine end points, one for each bag. How do you prove two is the minimum?
Count outcomes. One weighing produces at most three different results, and three results cannot point to nine different bags. With k weighings you can separate at most 3 to the power k bags, so nine bags need at least two weighings, and the method above shows two is enough. The same count answers the natural follow-up: three weighings handle up to 27 bags, four handle 81.
The relationshipk the number of weighings n the number of bags, one of which is light 3 outcomes of one weighing: left light, right light, balanced What it says in wordsEach weighing multiplies the number of distinguishable outcomes by three, so you need enough weighings for the outcomes to cover every bag.Why would an asset manager ask this? It is a test of whether you use all the information a measurement gives you. A risk report, a performance attribution or a data screen can be read in more ways than pass and fail, and the candidate who spots the third outcome here is the one who reads the level result as a finding.
Where candidates lose it
The trap is answering three or four because you split into halves. It is the natural instinct, and the interviewer is watching whether you notice that a balance can come out level, which is a result in its own right.
The second loss is giving two without the counting proof. Say the 3 to the power k rule in one sentence: it shows you know the answer is a minimum, not just a method that happened to work.
What the interviewer asks next
- How many weighings do you need for 27 bags? For 100?
- Now you do not know whether the odd bag is heavier or lighter, and there are twelve. How many weighings?
- You may take any number of coins from each bag and weigh once on a scale that shows grams. How do you find the light bag?
