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Case 034Client situations and behaviourWarm up

A client wants to lend Rs 50 lakh to a friend's business at 18%. If there is a 20% chance of default with 30% recovery, what is his expected return, and how do you have the conversation?

1The situation

Yogesh Nandedkar, 51, has a Rs 3 crore portfolio. A college friend runs a small packaging business and has asked him for a one-year loan of Rs 50 lakh at 18% interest to buy a machine. Yogesh sees 18% against the 7% his deposits pay and is keen.

From what you know of businesses of this size and this friend's accounts, you judge there is roughly a 20% chance the loan is not repaid. If that happens, selling the machine and chasing the balance might recover 30% of the principal. Ignore tax for the first pass.

2Your task

What is the expected return on the loan? What default rate would make it no better than a deposit, and what would you say to Yogesh?

Quick check

Roughly what is the expected return on this loan?

Worked solution

Try it on paper, then open one step at a time.

30-second answerThe answer to give first

The expected return is about 0.4%, not 18%. Repaid, he gets Rs 59.0 lakh; in default, Rs 15.0 lakh. Weighted 80 to 20, that averages Rs 50.2 lakh on Rs 50 lakh. The loan only matches a 7% deposit if the default chance is below 12.5%, or if the rate is 26.2%. The conversation separates helping a friend from making an investment.

Step 1Why is the coupon not the return?

A shop that sells a hundred mangoes at Rs 20 profit each, but throws away twenty rotten ones at Rs 40 loss each, does not earn Rs 20 a mango. The coupon is what a loan pays if nothing goes wrong; the expected return weights every outcome by its chance. Here the good branch pays Rs 59.0 lakh and the bad branch Rs 15.0 lakh, and the 20% chance of the bad branch eats almost all of the extra interest.

An 18% coupon, a 0.4% expected returnLend Rs 50 lakhat 18% for a year80%20%Repaid with interestgets Rs 59.0 lakhDefault, 30% recoveredgets Rs 15.0 lakhExpected value0.8 x 59.0 + 0.2 x 15.0Rs 50.2 lakh+0.4% on 50A 7% deposit returns Rs 53.5 lakh with no branch at all: the loan needs 26.2% to match it in expectation
Lending Rs 50 lakh at 18% returns Rs 59.0 lakh with an 80% chance and Rs 15.0 lakh with a 20% chance, an expected Rs 50.2 lakh or 0.4%, against a certain Rs 53.5 lakh from a 7% deposit.
The relationship
E=0.8×59+0.2×15=50.250.250−1=0.4%E = 0.8 \times 59 + 0.2 \times 15 = 50.2 \qquad \frac{50.2}{50} - 1 = 0.4\%
59principal plus 18% interest if repaid, Rs lakh
1530% of the principal recovered in default
0.8, 0.2the chances of each branch
What it says in wordsThe expected payoff is the probability-weighted average of the two outcomes, divided by what was lent.
Step 2What would make the loan as good as a deposit?

Turn the question around, because it gives Yogesh something he can check. At 18%, the loan matches a 7% deposit only if the default chance is below 12.5%; at a 20% default chance, it would need a rate of about 26.2%. Then add what the average hides: one time in five, Yogesh loses Rs 35 lakh, over 11% of his portfolio, and possibly the friendship. A deposit has no bad branch at all.

Step 3How do you have the conversation?

Separate the two decisions he is making at once. Helping a friend is a legitimate choice; calling it an 18% investment is what goes wrong. If he wants to help, size the loan to an amount he could lose without changing his plans, say Rs 10 to 15 lakh, put it in writing with security over the machine, and count it outside the investment portfolio. If he wants a return, the numbers say this is not one.

Be honest about the soft number too. The 20% default chance is a judgement, not a measurement, and Yogesh may think his friend is safer than that. Run it at 10%: the expected return rises, but the Rs 35 lakh loss in the bad branch is unchanged, and so is the concentration in one borrower.

Where candidates lose it

Candidates either quote the 18% as the return or refuse the loan outright on principle. Both miss the job: put the expected value on the table, then help the client decide what kind of decision this is.

The arithmetic trap is taking 18% minus the default rate, a 20-point haircut, which gives minus 2%. The loss in default is not the whole principal, and the interest is only earned in the good branch.

What the interviewer asks next

  • The friend offers a personal guarantee from his father. How does that change the numbers?
  • What if the loan is repaid in monthly instalments instead of at the end?
  • How is the interest taxed, and does that change the comparison with a deposit?
← Case 033A couple with Rs 4 crore of assets and a four-year-old child have no wills, and their nominations still name parents and siblings. What must their wills cover, and which nominations need changing?Case 035 →A client is offered an 11% NCD from an A-rated housing finance company against 8% on AAA paper. With a 3% yearly default chance and 50% loss if it defaults, what is the expected return, and is the extra yield enough?

Company names and figures are illustrative.

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