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Case 077Market-making gamesCore

Make a market on the number of cars parked at a large suburban mall at 1 pm on Saturday: four levels of about 250 bays, occupancy somewhere between 70% and 90%. Then the interviewer sells to your bid three times in a row. How do you quote, and how do you update?

DRWChicago · 2025

1The situation

The Zephrana Markets interviewer draws a four-level car park on the whiteboard and asks for a two-way market on the number of cars parked there at 1 pm this Saturday. Each contract settles at the count, Rs 100 per car. You have no data beyond what you can reason.

From the building's footprint you judge each level holds about 250 bays, somewhere between 230 and 270. A weekend lunchtime at a busy mall, you reckon, fills 70% to 90% of the bays. You quote, and the interviewer sells one contract to your bid. You requote; the interviewer sells again. Then a third time.

2Your task

What is your opening market and why that width, and how do you move it as the sells arrive?

Quick check

After the third sell at your bid, what is the best reading?

Worked solution

Try it on paper, then open one step at a time.

30-second answerThe answer to give first

Open at 760 bid, 840 offer around a central estimate of 800 cars, then shade down about 20 per sell and widen after the third, to 690 at 790. Four levels of 250 bays at 80% gives 800; the ends of the ranges give 644 and 972, a standard deviation of about 69. Three sells at your bid say your number is probably high. You are long three at an average of 740.

Step 1How do you get a number for something you cannot look up?

Break it into pieces you can each defend, as you would guess the number of chairs in a cinema from rows times seats per row. Here cars equal levels times bays per level times occupancy, and each piece has its own range. The central case is 4 x 250 x 80%, which is 800. Take the low end of both ranges and you get 644; the high end gives 972. Say the pieces out loud: the interviewer can then challenge one of them, which is far better than challenging a single number you plucked from the air.

Build the number from pieces, then quote around the middleLevels4countedBays per level230 / 250 / 270from the footprintOccupancy at 1 pm70% / 80% / 90%Saturday lunchxxLow4 x 230 x 70% = 644Central4 x 250 x 80% = 800High4 x 270 x 90% = 9726007008009001,000low 644high 972bid 760offer 840800Width of 80 is a little over one standard deviation of about 69 cars
Four levels times 230 to 270 bays times 70% to 90% occupancy gives a range of 644 to 972 cars around a central 800, and the opening quote of 760 at 840 brackets the central value.
Step 2How wide should the market be?

Width should reflect how unsure you are, scaled by how much you are willing to lose to a better-informed trader. Treat each range as even odds across it. Bays contribute about 4.6% relative uncertainty and occupancy about 7.2%, so together about 8.6% of 800, roughly 69 cars. A market of plus or minus 40 is a little over one standard deviation wide in total: tight enough that the interviewer will trade with you, wide enough that a single trade against you costs a known amount. The occupancy piece dominates, which tells you where to spend thinking time.

The relationship
σcarscars≈(σbaysbays)2+(σoccocc)2=0.0462+0.0722≈8.6%\frac{\sigma_{\text{cars}}}{\text{cars}} \approx \sqrt{\Big(\frac{\sigma_{\text{bays}}}{\text{bays}}\Big)^2 + \Big(\frac{\sigma_{\text{occ}}}{\text{occ}}\Big)^2} = \sqrt{0.046^2 + 0.072^2} \approx 8.6\%
sigma baysstandard deviation of an even spread from 230 to 270, about 11.5
sigma occstandard deviation of an even spread from 70% to 90%, about 5.8 points
What it says in wordsFor a product of independent pieces, relative uncertainties add in squares, so the larger piece dominates the total.
Step 3What should the three sells do to your market?

Each sell is a vote. A seller who thought the count was above 760 would have bought at 840 or done nothing. Repeated selling at your bid says your estimate is high, so a Fermi market is updated by the flow as well as by your reasoning. A simple rule is to shade the mid down by a quarter of the width, 20 cars, after each hit: 740 at 820, then 720 at 800. After the third, widen as well, to 690 at 790, because flow that keeps coming one way raises the chance that the seller has a sharper number, perhaps having thought harder about Saturday lunch at a mall whose peak is the evening show.

Three sells at your bid move the market down, and wideryour range 644 to 972Opening quote760840sold to you at 760After sell 1740820sold to you at 740After sell 2720800sold to you at 720After sell 3690790first mid 8006007008009001,000Long 3 at an average of 740: the new mid of 740 marks the position flat
Each sell at the bid moves Zephrana's quote down by 20 cars, and the third also widens it, from 760 at 840 to 690 at 790; every quote stays inside the 644 to 972 range the estimate itself allows.
Step 4Where does that leave your position?

You bought at 760, 740 and 720, an average of 740, and your new mid is 740, so the position marks flat. If the true count is 700, the three contracts lose Rs 12,000 at Rs 100 a car, the price of being slow to listen. Say one more thing: the updated mid of 740 is still well inside the range your own reasoning produced, so the flow has not proved you wrong; it has told you which part of your range to lean on. If the sells kept coming below 700, you would ask what you had missed, such as a level closed for repairs.

Where candidates lose it

The common miss is treating the three sells as inventory noise and holding the quote, or worse, raising the bid to show conviction. In a trading game the interviewer's order flow is the main new information, and ignoring it is the error being tested.

The opposite error is panicking: dropping the market by 150 after one sell. That throws away the reasoning that produced 800. Move in steps sized to your width, and widen when the flow persists.

What the interviewer asks next

  • The interviewer now buys at your offer of 790. What do you infer, and where do you quote?
  • How would your width change if the interviewer told you they had counted this car park last week?
  • Which single fact would you most like to know, and why that one?
  • Make a market on the number of those cars that are white.

Asked at DRW, Quantitative Trading, Chicago, 2025 (Wall Street Oasis): Market making and fermi estimation on random quantities

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