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021An investor buys preferred shares for Rs 50 crore that carry an 8% cumulative dividend, compounding annually. The dividend is never paid in cash; it accrues and is added to the liquidation preference. The shares are non-participating and convert into 25% of the company. What is the preference after five years, and above what exit value does conversion become the better choice?Growth equityIndia VC
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Above what exit value does the investor convert after five years?
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The preference is about Rs 73.47 crore, and conversion wins only above an exit of about Rs 293.9 crore. Rs 50 crore compounding at 8% for five years is 50 x 1.08 to the power 5. Converting gives 25% of the exit, which beats Rs 73.47 crore only when the exit exceeds 73.47 divided by 0.25. Without the dividend the break-even would be Rs 200 crore.
How does an unpaid dividend change the preference?
Think of a loan where the interest is not paid each year but added to what you owe, so next year's interest is charged on the bigger amount. A cumulative dividend that accrues instead of being paid works the same way: each year's 8% is added to the preference, and the next year's 8% is charged on the larger figure. After one year the preference is Rs 54 crore, after two Rs 58.32 crore, and after five Rs 73.47 crore, about 47% more than was invested.
The relationshipP_5 the liquidation preference after five years, Rs crore 1.08 one year of 8% compounding 0.25 the share of the company the preferred converts into V* the exit value at which converting and taking the preference pay the same What it says in wordsGrow the preference at 8% a year, then find the exit at which a quarter of the company is worth the same.Compounding at 8%, the Rs 50 crore preference grows to Rs 73.5 crore in five years, and the exit value above which converting to 25% beats it climbs from Rs 200 crore to about Rs 294 crore. What happens between Rs 200 crore and Rs 294 crore?
In that band the investor takes the preference rather than converting, and the founders and common holders feel it. At an exit of Rs 250 crore, a plain 1x preference holder would convert and take Rs 62.5 crore; with the accrued dividend the investor takes Rs 73.47 crore instead, and the extra comes out of the common holders' share. The accrued dividend is a return on the investment that is paid whether or not the company has grown, which is why founders negotiate hard against it or ask for it to be non-cumulative.
Name the assumptions. The answer takes the dividend as forfeited on conversion, which is the usual drafting, and the preference as non-participating. If the dividend were also paid on conversion, the investor would convert at a lower exit; read the actual terms before trusting any break-even.
Where candidates lose it
The common slip is answering Rs 200 crore, the break-even on the original investment, and forgetting that the preference has grown. The question gave you five years and a dividend rate for a reason.
The second is using simple interest, 8% x 5 = 40%, for a preference of Rs 70 crore and a break-even of Rs 280 crore. The dividend compounds: 1.08 to the power 5 is about 1.469.
What the interviewer asks next
- If the dividend is simple rather than compounding, what is the conversion point?
- At an exit of Rs 250 crore, what does the common get, and how much less is it than with a plain 1x preference?
- Why would a growth investor ask for a cumulative dividend rather than a higher ownership?
037Series A put in Rs 10 crore and Series B Rs 40 crore, both with 1x non-participating preferences. The company sells for Rs 45 crore. Who gets what if Series B is senior, and who gets what if the two rank pari passu?Series A to C VCMulti-stage VC
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With the two series ranking pari passu, what does Series A receive?
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With B senior, B takes Rs 40 crore and A Rs 5 crore; pari passu, A takes Rs 9 crore and B Rs 36 crore. The preferences add to Rs 50 crore against a Rs 45 crore sale, so someone is short. A senior B is paid in full first and A gets what is left. Pari passu, each recovers 90% of its preference. Common shareholders get nothing either way, and seniority moves Rs 4 crore from A to B.
What do senior and pari passu mean when the money runs short?
Two friends lent Rs 10,000 and Rs 40,000 to a third, who can now repay only Rs 45,000. If the bigger lender was promised first claim, he takes his Rs 40,000 and the other gets Rs 5,000. If they agreed to stand together, they each take 90 paise in the rupee. Seniority decides the order of payment; pari passuLatin for equal step. Claims that rank pari passu are paid at the same time, sharing any shortfall in proportion to the amounts owed. means paying everyone at once in proportion to what each is owed. Both rules give the same answer whenever the sale covers every preference; they only differ in a shortfall like this one.
Against Rs 50 crore of preferences, a Rs 45 crore sale gives a senior Series B its full Rs 40 crore and Series A Rs 5 crore, while pari passu ranking gives A Rs 9 crore and B Rs 36 crore, a Rs 4 crore shift. The relationship45 the sale price, in Rs crore 10, 40 the Series A and Series B preferences, 1x their investment 10 + 40 the total preference the sale has to cover What it says in wordsPari passu splits the sale in the ratio of the preferences; seniority pays B in full and gives A the remainder.Would either series rather convert to common?
Check it, because non-participating preferred can always choose to convert. When the total preference exceeds the sale price, converting cannot help either series, because a converted holder still stands behind the other series' preference and shares only what is left. If A converted under B seniority, it would share the Rs 5 crore left with the other common holders, getting less than Rs 5 crore. If B converted under pari passu, it would share the Rs 35 crore left after A's Rs 10 crore, less than its Rs 36 crore. So the stacks above are the answer, whatever the stakes are.
Why does the later investor usually ask for seniority?
The later investor writes the bigger cheque at the higher price, and a down-side sale hurts it most. Seniority protects the Rs 40 crore cheque at the expense of the Rs 10 crore one, so it moves Series A's recovery from 90% to 50%. That is why earlier investors negotiate hard for pari passu when a new round comes in. The limitation of this example is that it is a single sale at a single price; at any exit above Rs 50 crore the ranking stops mattering for the preferences and only the conversion decisions remain.
Where candidates lose it
The common loss is answering Rs 5 crore for Series A in both cases, treating pari passu as if it were seniority in a different order. Pari passu is a proportional split, and the question asks for both rankings precisely to see whether you know the difference.
The second loss is splitting the Rs 45 crore in half between the two series. Pari passu shares in proportion to what each is owed, 10 to 40, not equally per series.
What the interviewer asks next
- At what sale price does the ranking stop mattering to Series A?
- If Series B had a 1.5x preference and ranked senior, what would Series A receive at Rs 45 crore?
- How would participation for Series B change the split at a Rs 80 crore sale?
054The cap table: seed paid Rs 5 crore for 10%, Series A Rs 20 crore for 20% and Series B Rs 50 crore for 20%, each with a 1x non-participating preference; founders and staff hold the other 50%. Above roughly what exit value does every class convert to common, and which class sets that line?Series A to C VCMulti-stage VC
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Which exit value is the line above which every class converts?
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Above about Rs 250 crore, and Series B sets that line. A non-participating holder converts when its share of the exit beats its preference, so each class's line is preference divided by stake: seed Rs 5 crore over 10% is Rs 50 crore, Series A Rs 20 crore over 20% is Rs 100 crore, Series B Rs 50 crore over 20% is Rs 250 crore. The class that paid the most per percentage point is the last to convert.
Why is the line for each class its preference divided by its stake?
Suppose a friend offers you a choice: your Rs 500 back, or a tenth of whatever the raffle raises. You take the tenth only once the pot is above Rs 5,000. A 1x non-participating preference is exactly that choice, so a class converts once its stake times the exit value beats its money back, and the crossover is preference divided by stake. Preference over stake is also the price the class paid for the whole company, which is why the class that bought at the highest valuation, here Series B at an implied Rs 250 crore, holds out longest.
Divided alone, the preferences give conversion lines of Rs 50, 100 and 250 crore; once seniors holding their preference shrink the pool, seed and Series A convert later, at Rs 100 and Rs 130 crore, but Series B's line stays at Rs 250 crore, above which every class converts. Why does the question say 'roughly', and do the lower lines move?
The simple division assumes everyone else has converted. Below Rs 250 crore Series B keeps its Rs 50 crore, and that comes out of the pot before the others share it. When a senior class holds its preference, the pool left for everyone else shrinks, so the junior classes need a bigger exit before converting pays. Series A with B holding gets 20/80 of the exit less Rs 50 crore, which beats Rs 20 crore only above Rs 130 crore. Seed, with both A and B holding, needs Rs 100 crore. The top line does not move, because by the time Series B is deciding, everyone below it has already converted.
Class Preference Stake Preference / stake Line with seniors holding Seed Rs 5 crore 10% Rs 50 crore Rs 100 crore Series A Rs 20 crore 20% Rs 100 crore Rs 130 crore Series B Rs 50 crore 20% Rs 250 crore Rs 250 crore Each class's conversion line, first on its own and then allowing for the preferences still held above it; only the top line is unchanged. In the room, give Rs 250 crore and Series B first, then offer the refinement as a check. It shows you understand that preferences interact, which matters when you are the junior investor negotiating behind a large late round.
Where candidates lose it
The common wrong answer is Rs 75 crore, the sum of the preferences. At that exit every class is repaid, but converting is still worse than taking the money for all three, so nobody converts yet. Covering the preferences and making conversion pay are two different lines.
The second loss is naming the right number without the reason. Say that the class with the highest price per percentage point converts last; the interviewer is checking whether you can spot that class on any cap table.
What the interviewer asks next
- If Series B had a 2x preference, where would its line move?
- Between Rs 100 and Rs 130 crore, who gets what?
- How would participation change whether Series B ever needs to convert?
