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061Par yields are 6% for one year and 7% for two years, with annual coupons. Bootstrap the two-year zero rate.Syndicate desksFixed income asset management
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Is the two-year zero rate above or below the 7% par yield?
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The two-year zero rate is about 7.035%. The one-year par bond pays 106 in a year for 100, so the one-year zero rate is 6%. The two-year par bond pays 7 and then 107. Strip the first coupon at 6%: 7 / 1.06 = 6.604. The remaining 93.396 must be the value of 107 in two years, so (1 + z) squared = 107 / 93.396, and z = 7.035%.
What does bootstrapping actually do?
A fruit seller sells one mango for Rs 20 and a bag of one mango and one papaya for Rs 70. You can price the papaya without ever seeing it sold alone: Rs 50. Bootstrapping prices each future date the same way: use the shorter bond to value the early cash flows, and whatever is left of the longer bond's price belongs to its final cash flow. A one-year par bond at 6% pays 106 in a year for 100, so the one-year zero rate is simply 6%.
The one-year par bond fixes the one-year zero rate at 6%; stripping the two-year bond's first coupon at that rate leaves 93.396 of its price for the final 107, which implies a two-year zero rate of 7.035%. The relationshipz_2 the two-year zero rate, the rate for a single payment in two years 7 / 1.06 the first coupon valued at the one-year zero rate 107 the final coupon plus the principal What it says in wordsWhatever the first coupon does not explain of the price of 100 must be the value of the final cash flow.Why is the zero rate above the par yield?
A par yield is one rate that blends the rates on every cash flow, so when the curve slopes up, the last cash flow must carry a rate above the blend. The two-year bond's first coupon is discounted at 6%, which makes it worth a little more than a 7% discount would say. To keep the whole bond at 100, the final 107 has to be discounted a little harder: 7.035% rather than 7%. The gap is small because only one coupon of 7 sits at the lower rate.
Say what the zero curve is for, because it is why the question is asked. With zero rates you can price any bond by discounting each cash flow at its own rate, which is how a desk checks whether a bond is fairly priced. The same two rates give the one-year rate one year forward: 1.07035 squared over 1.06, minus 1, about 8.08%. The limit: real bootstrapping uses many bonds with different coupons and settlement conventions, and a two-point curve says nothing about the shape in between.
Where candidates lose it
The fast wrong answer is 7%, treating the par yield as the zero rate. That holds only at one year, where there is a single cash flow; from two years on, the earlier coupons carry their own rates.
The second loss is an arithmetic slip under pressure: dividing 107 by 93.396 and forgetting the square root, which gives 14.6% instead of 7.035%. Say out loud that the result is a two-year factor before you annualise it.
What the interviewer asks next
- What is the one-year rate one year forward implied by these two zero rates?
- If the two-year par yield were 5%, would the two-year zero rate sit above or below it?
- How would you price a two-year bond with a 10% coupon off this zero curve?
062A company has an enterprise value of Rs 1,000 crore against senior secured debt of Rs 500 crore, senior unsecured debt of Rs 300 crore and subordinated debt of Rs 150 crore. Enterprise value then falls 30%. What does each layer recover, which layer is the fulcrum, and at what enterprise value would the equity start to be worth something?KKRNew York · 2025
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After the fall, which layer is the fulcrum?
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At Rs 700 crore, senior secured recovers 100%, senior unsecured 66.7% and the subordinated debt nothing, so the senior unsecured layer is the fulcrum. Value is paid down the stack in order: Rs 500 crore to the secured lenders leaves Rs 200 crore for Rs 300 crore of unsecured claims, and nothing below. The equity is worth something only once enterprise value exceeds total debt of Rs 950 crore.
How is value shared out when it falls short of the debt?
Picture water poured into a stack of glasses, each filling completely before any spills into the next. In a recovery, value pays each layer of the capital structure in full, in order of priority, before anything reaches the next layer down. The senior secured lenders' glass holds Rs 500 crore, the senior unsecured Rs 300 crore, the subordinated Rs 150 crore, and the equity takes whatever is left. Pour in Rs 700 crore and watch where it stops.
At Rs 700 crore of enterprise value, the Rs 500 crore senior secured layer is covered in full, the senior unsecured layer receives Rs 200 crore of its Rs 300 crore, 66.7%, and the subordinated debt and equity receive nothing, which makes senior unsecured the fulcrum. Layer Claim At EV Rs 1,000 crore At EV Rs 700 crore Senior secured 500 500 (100%) 500 (100%) Senior unsecured 300 300 (100%) 200 (66.7%) Subordinated 150 150 (100%) 0 (0%) Equity 50 0 Total 950 1,000 700 Rs crore, recovery in brackets. At Rs 1,000 crore every debt layer is paid in full and the equity is worth Rs 50 crore; at Rs 700 crore the senior unsecured layer recovers 66.7% and everything below it is wiped out. Why does the fulcrum matter to a credit investor?
The fulcrum securityThe most senior layer of the capital structure that the company value does not cover in full, so it is likely to receive the equity in a restructuring. is the layer where the value runs out. It usually ends up owning the business in a restructuring, because the layers above are paid in full and the layers below are wiped out. Here the senior unsecured lenders would likely exchange their Rs 300 crore of claims for most of the new equity. Distressed investors buy the fulcrum because its value moves most with the enterprise value: between Rs 500 and Rs 800 crore, every extra Rs 1 crore goes straight to it.
At what value does the equity come back to life?
The equity is out of the money until enterprise value covers every debt claim, Rs 500 plus 300 plus 150 crore, which is Rs 950 crore. At the original Rs 1,000 crore it was worth only Rs 50 crore, 5% of enterprise value, which is why a 30% fall wiped it out and went on through the subordinated layer too. The limit: this is a strict priority waterfall; in real restructurings junior classes often receive a small share to win their votes, and claims include accrued interest and fees, so treat these recoveries as the starting point of a negotiation.
Where candidates lose it
The common slip is sharing the loss pro rata: Rs 700 crore over Rs 950 crore of debt is 73.7% for everyone. That ignores priority, which is the whole point of a capital structure question.
The second is naming the subordinated debt as the fulcrum because it is the first layer to lose everything. The fulcrum is the layer where the value line lands, the one that is only partly covered: here the senior unsecured.
What the interviewer asks next
- Enterprise value falls to Rs 450 crore. What does each layer recover now?
- The senior secured lenders are also owed Rs 30 crore of accrued interest. Does the fulcrum move?
- Where would the senior unsecured bonds trade if the market expects Rs 700 crore of value in a restructuring a year from now?
Asked at KKR, Distressed Debt, New York, 2025 (Wall Street Oasis):
What are your weaknesses? A capital structure question with enterprise value.
063Which carries more interest rate risk: a 10-year floating rate note that resets every quarter, bought just after a reset, or a 2-year bond with a fixed 7% annual coupon yielding 7%? Estimate each one's duration.Fixed income asset management
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Which has the longer interest rate duration?
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The 2-year fixed bond carries far more rate risk: a duration of about 1.9 years against about 0.25 for the floater. The floater's coupon resets to the market every quarter, so a rate move can only hurt it until the next reset, three months away. The fixed bond is locked at 7% for two years, and its Macaulay duration is 1.93 years. A 1 point rise in rates costs the floater about 0.25 points and the fixed bond about 1.78.
Why is a 10-year floater so short on rate risk?
Think of two landlords. One has let a flat for two years at a fixed rent; the other has a ten-year lease whose rent is reset to the market every three months. If market rents jump, the first is stuck for two years and the second catches up within a quarter. A floater's coupon resets to the market rate on every reset date, so its value can only drift from par for the few months until the next reset, whatever its final maturity. Just after a reset, that is about a quarter of a year.
The 10-year floater's coupon is locked for only three months, a rate duration of about 0.25 years, while the 2-year fixed bond's coupon is locked for both years, a duration of 1.93 years, so the shorter bond carries about 8 times the rate risk. The relationshipD_fix Macaulay duration of the fixed bond, its value-weighted average time to the cash flows 7, 107 the fixed bond's two annual cash flows per Rs 100 D_FRN the floater's rate duration, about the time to its next reset What it says in wordsA fixed bond's duration runs to its cash flows; a floater's runs only to its next reset.What does each lose if rates rise one point?
Reprice both at a rate 1 point higher: the fixed bond falls from 100 to 98.22, a loss of 1.78, while the floater loses only 0.25, because it earns the old coupon for one quarter and then resets. The fixed bond carries about 8 times the rate risk of a note five times its length. This is why a bank funding itself with three-month deposits is comfortable holding floaters: the asset and the liability reprice together.
Keep the other risk in view. The floater's short rate duration says nothing about credit: its spread duration runs to maturity, about 7 years here, so a widening in the issuer's spread hits it far harder than it hits the 2-year bond. Name both numbers if the interviewer pushes, because the claim that floaters are low risk is only half true. The limit: this assumes a flat 7% curve and an issuer whose credit does not change.
Where candidates lose it
The trap is equating maturity with rate risk. A 10-year floater sounds riskier than a 2-year bond, but its coupon catches up with the market every quarter, so a rate move can hurt it for a few months at most.
The second loss is stopping there and calling the floater safe. It has almost no rate duration but a long spread duration; say both, or the follow-up on credit will catch you.
What the interviewer asks next
- Halfway between two resets, what is the floater's rate duration?
- A bank funds itself with 3-month deposits. Which of the two bonds matches its funding better, and why?
- Roughly what is the spread duration of the 10-year floater, and what does a 50 basis point widening cost it?
064An issuer's outstanding bonds trade at 8.10% for 5 years and 8.40% for 7 years. It prices a new 6-year bond at 8.40%. What new issue premium did it pay against its own curve?Syndicate desks
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What new issue premium did the issuer pay?
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The issuer paid a new issue premium of about 15 basis points. Its own curve runs from 8.10% at 5 years to 8.40% at 7 years, so a fair 6-year yield, interpolated halfway, is 8.25%. The new bond priced at 8.40%, 15 basis points wide of that. On a Rs 1,000 crore issue that is Rs 1.5 crore a year of extra coupon, about Rs 6.9 crore in today's money over six years.
What is fair value for a bond that does not exist yet?
If flats in one building sell for Rs 80 lakh on the fifth floor and Rs 84 lakh on the seventh, a sixth-floor flat is fairly priced near Rs 82 lakh; asking Rs 84 lakh for it is a premium. A new bond's fair value is read off the issuer's own curve at the new bond's maturity, because that curve already prices this issuer's credit. With points at 5 and 7 years, the 6-year point is the straight-line midpoint: 8.10% plus half of 30 basis points, 8.25%.
The issuer's curve runs from 8.10% at 5 years to 8.40% at 7 years, putting fair value for a 6-year bond at 8.25%, so the new 6-year bond priced at 8.40% paid a new issue premium of 15 basis points. The relationshipy_6 the interpolated fair yield for a 6-year bond from this issuer (6-5)/(7-5) how far along the gap between the 5-year and the 7-year the new bond sits NIP new issue premium, the new bond's yield less its fair value What it says in wordsFair value comes from the issuer's own curve at the new maturity; the premium is what the new bond pays above it.Why do issuers pay a premium at all, and what does it cost?
Investors want a small concession for buying a new bond rather than the existing ones: they take size, commit before the bond trades, and often sell other holdings to make room. The syndicate desk's job is to keep that premium as small as the order book allows. Here 15 basis points on Rs 1,000 crore is Rs 1.5 crore of extra coupon a year, about Rs 6.9 crore today over six years at 8.40%, which is why syndicate desks argue over five basis points.
State the assumptions behind the answer. Linear interpolation assumes the curve is straight between 5 and 7 years; a curve that bows would move fair value by a few basis points. The outstanding bonds may also be small or rarely traded, so their yields can carry a liquidity premium of their own. A desk would check the answer against a second yardstick, such as the spread over the government curve, before calling the premium high or low.
Where candidates lose it
The usual slip is comparing with the wrong bond: against the 7-year the premium looks like zero, against the 5-year it looks like 30 basis points. The new bond is a 6-year, so fair value has to come from the 6-year point on the curve.
The second loss is not saying how you interpolated. Say straight line between the two points, give 8.25%, and note that a curved line could move the answer by a few basis points.
What the interviewer asks next
- The issuer's 7-year bond is illiquid and trades 10 basis points wide of fair. What is the premium now?
- The book was four times covered. What does that tell you about the 15 basis points?
- How would you estimate the premium for a first-time issuer with no bonds outstanding?
065In a trading game you are asked to make a two-way market on the sum of three fair dice. Quote a bid and an offer. The first die is then shown to be a 6. Where do you move your market, and why?Belvedere TradingChicago · 2022
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After the 6 is shown, where should the middle of your market be?
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Start around 10.5, say 9.5 bid and 11.5 offered, then move to about 12.2 bid, 13.8 offered once the 6 is shown. Each fair die is worth 3.5 on average, so three are worth 10.5. After the reveal the value is 6 plus 3.5 plus 3.5, which is 13.0. The market should also narrow, because one die's uncertainty has gone: the standard deviation falls from 2.96 to 2.42, so the width shrinks by about a fifth, not a third.
Where does the first quote come from?
A shop that buys and sells used phones offers to buy below what it thinks a phone is worth and to sell above it, and earns the gap. A market maker quotes around the expected value, with a bid below and an offer above, and the width reflects how uncertain that value is. Each fair die averages 3.5, so three dice average 10.5. A quote of 9.5 bid, 11.5 offered straddles that value; the sum can still land anywhere from 3 to 18, so the market cannot be tight.
Before any die is shown the sum centres on 10.5 with a standard deviation of 2.96; once a 6 is shown it centres on 13.0 with a standard deviation of 2.42, so the quote moves up 2.5 and narrows from 9.5 to 11.5 to about 12.2 to 13.8. What changes when the first die is shown?
Two things, and candidates usually say only one. The expected value jumps to 6 plus 3.5 plus 3.5, which is 13.0, and the uncertainty shrinks because only two dice are still hidden. Variance adds across independent dice, 35/12 for each, so it falls from 8.75 to 5.83, a third lower; the standard deviation falls from 2.96 to 2.42, about 18% lower. Scale the width by that: 2 points becomes about 1.6, so quote roughly 12.2 bid, 13.8 offered.
The relationship3.5 the expected value of one fair die 35/12 the variance of one fair die sigma the standard deviation of the part of the sum still unknown What it says in wordsThe expected value adds the known die to the average of the hidden ones; the uncertainty comes only from the dice still hidden.What does the interviewer want to hear beyond the numbers?
Move the market the moment information arrives, because a stale quote is a free option for everyone else at the table. If you stay at 9.5 to 11.5 after a 6 shows, every player buys your offer at 11.5 against a fair value of 13.0. Then say what you would do if you suspected the other side knew more than you, for example had seen a second die: widen, or lean your quote towards the risk. The limit: the width here is a choice; a real desk sets it by competition and by how much risk it can hold, not by a formula.
Where candidates lose it
The common loss is leaving the market where it was, or moving the middle and forgetting the width. Fair value jumps to 13.0 the moment the 6 is shown and the uncertainty is smaller, so both the level and the width should change.
The second is narrowing the width by a third because one of three dice is known. Variance falls by a third, but the standard deviation falls by only about 18%, so the market narrows by about a fifth.
What the interviewer asks next
- Someone lifts your 13.8 offer three times in a row. What do you do next?
- Before any die is shown, what is the probability that the sum is 13 or more?
- How does your market change if the second die is also shown to be a 6?
Asked at Belvedere Trading, Equity Capital Markets, Chicago, 2022 (Wall Street Oasis):
superday with two 1-1s and a group trading game
066Five creditor classes, ranked by seniority, must agree how to split 100 units of recovery. The most senior class still at the table proposes a split. If at least half of the classes at the table vote for it, it passes; otherwise the proposer leaves with nothing and the next most senior class proposes. Every class wants the most units and votes no when indifferent. What should the most senior class propose?Restructuring
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How many units can the most senior class keep?
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The senior class proposes 98 for itself, 0 for class 2, 1 for class 3, 0 for class 4 and 1 for class 5, and the plan passes. Work backwards. With two classes left, class 4 takes all 100, because its own vote is half. With three, class 3 buys class 5 with 1 unit. With four, class 2 buys class 4 with 1. With five, class 1 needs two more votes and buys classes 3 and 5, who would otherwise get nothing, with 1 unit each.
Why start from the end of the game?
When you must catch a train that leaves at a fixed time, you plan from the departure backwards to when you leave home. A bargaining game played in turns is solved the same way: the last stage has an obvious answer, and each earlier proposal only has to beat what each voter would get one stage later. The end here is two classes, 4 and 5. Class 4 proposes 100 for itself and votes yes, and one yes out of two is half, so the plan passes.
With two classes left class 4 takes 100; with three, class 3 keeps 99 and buys class 5; with four, class 2 keeps 99 and buys class 4; with five, class 1 keeps 98 and buys classes 3 and 5 with one unit each, because they are the classes that get nothing one stage later. How does each proposer buy the cheapest votes?
With three classes left, class 3 needs two of three votes. Class 5 gets nothing if class 3 is removed, so one unit buys it: 99, 0, 1. At every stage the proposer buys the classes that would get nothing at the next stage, because one unit beats nothing. With four left, class 2 needs two of four votes and class 4 gets nothing in the three-class outcome, so the split is 99, 0, 1, 0. With five, class 1 needs three votes, its own plus classes 3 and 5, who get nothing in the four-class outcome.
Classes left Proposer Class 1 Class 2 Class 3 Class 4 Class 5 Votes needed 2 Class 4 out out out 100 0 1 of 2 3 Class 3 out out 99 0 1 2 of 3 4 Class 2 out 99 0 1 0 2 of 4 5 Class 1 98 0 1 0 1 3 of 5 Units of recovery at each stage. The proposer keeps everything it does not need to spend on votes, so the final split is 98, 0, 1, 0, 1 for classes 1 to 5. What does this teach about a real restructuring?
Bargaining power comes from what each party gets if the deal fails, not from its size or its rank on paper. The senior class keeps 98 because it can see what every other class would get if its plan failed, and it pays only for the votes it needs. Real restructurings do not run like this: priority rules, court oversight and class voting thresholds all change the outcome, and junior classes often hold out for a share because a fight costs everyone. Treat the puzzle as a lesson in reasoning from the fallback, not as a model of a court process.
Where candidates lose it
Most candidates try to be fair, or try to buy class 2 because it looks most powerful. Class 2 is the most expensive vote on the table: it becomes the proposer if class 1 is removed and would keep 99.
The second loss is getting the three-class and four-class stages wrong by forgetting that a tie passes. State the voting rule at the start, at least half including the proposer, and check each stage against it.
What the interviewer asks next
- What changes if a plan needs a strict majority rather than at least half?
- How does the answer change with seven classes?
- If indifferent classes vote yes, what does the senior class propose?
067A company has assets worth Rs 100 crore today and a Rs 80 crore zero-coupon loan due in a year. Next year the assets will be worth either Rs 60 crore or Rs 140 crore. What do the lender and the shareholders get in each case, and which side would prefer the company to hold riskier assets?Credit research
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Which side wants the company to take on riskier assets?
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At Rs 60 crore the lender gets 60 and shareholders nothing; at Rs 140 crore the lender gets 80 and shareholders 60. Shareholders prefer riskier assets. The lender's payoff is capped at the Rs 80 crore it is owed, while shareholders keep everything above 80 and cannot fall below zero. Equity works like a call option on the assets with a strike of 80, so more volatility moves value from the lender to the shareholders.
Who gets what in each outcome?
A student borrows Rs 80,000 from a relative to start a small business and owes it back in a year. If the business ends up worth Rs 60,000, the relative gets Rs 60,000 and the student nothing; if it is worth Rs 1,40,000, the relative gets Rs 80,000 and the student keeps Rs 60,000. The lender's payoff is the smaller of the asset value and what it is owed; the shareholders' payoff is whatever is left above the debt, never below zero. Here that is 60 or 80 for the lender and 0 or 60 for the shareholders.
The lender's payoff rises with asset value only up to the Rs 80 crore it is owed, while the shareholders' payoff is zero below 80 and rises one for one above it, so widening the outcomes to 20 or 180 cuts the lender's average from Rs 70 crore to Rs 50 crore and lifts the shareholders' from Rs 30 crore to Rs 50 crore. The relationshipV the value of the assets next year 80 the face value of the loan, the strike of the option What it says in wordsThe lender is paid the asset value up to 80; the shareholders get the excess over 80, or nothing.Why do shareholders like risk and lenders dislike it?
Keep the average at Rs 100 crore but widen the outcomes to Rs 20 or Rs 180 crore, each equally likely. The lender now gets 20 or 80, an average of 50 instead of 70, while shareholders get 0 or 100, an average of 50 instead of 30. Nothing about the business improved on average; Rs 20 crore of value simply moved from the lender to the shareholders. That is the shape of a call optionThe right, not the obligation, to buy something at a fixed price, so the holder keeps the upside above that price and loses nothing more below it.: capped loss, open-ended gain, so volatility helps the holder.
Case Asset value Lender gets Shareholders get Lender average Equity average As planned 60 or 140 60 or 80 0 or 60 70 30 Riskier assets 20 or 180 20 or 80 0 or 100 50 50 Rs crore, each outcome assumed equally likely. Widening the outcomes leaves the asset average at Rs 100 crore but moves Rs 20 crore of expected value from the lender to the shareholders. Say why a lender cares, because it is the point of the question. Loan documents restrict what a borrower can do with its assets, with limits on new debt, asset sales, dividends and changes of business, to stop shareholders swapping safe assets for risky ones after the loan is made. The pull is strongest near distress, as here, because shareholders have little left to lose. The limit: the 50/50 odds are an assumption, and the option view ignores that managers may also care about keeping the company alive.
Where candidates lose it
Candidates say nobody prefers more risk because the average asset value is unchanged. That treats both claims as if they shared outcomes equally, and they do not: the lender's payoff is capped and the equity's is floored.
The second miss is getting the payoffs right but never naming the option. Say equity is a call on the assets struck at the face value of the debt, and the follow-up on volatility answers itself.
What the interviewer asks next
- With 50/50 odds, what is the loan worth today if investors discount at 10%?
- The company can pay a Rs 20 crore dividend today out of its assets. Who gains and who loses?
- Which covenants would you write into the loan to stop a switch to riskier assets?
068Two loans each have a 10% chance of default. What is the probability that at least one defaults if the defaults are independent, and if they are perfectly correlated? Why does a portfolio lender care?Risk managementCredit research
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If the defaults are independent, what is the chance that at least one loan defaults?
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Independent: 19% that at least one defaults and 1% that both do. Perfectly correlated: 10% for at least one and 10% for both. Independent loans survive together 0.9 x 0.9 = 81% of the time, so one or more defaults 19% of the time. Perfectly correlated loans default together or not at all. The expected number of defaults is 0.2 in both cases; what changes is how defaults bunch, and the chance of losing both loans is ten times higher.
Why is the answer not simply 10% plus 10%?
A 10% chance of rain on Saturday and 10% on Sunday is not a 20% chance of a wet weekend: some outcomes rain on both days and would be counted twice. The chance that at least one of two events happens is the sum of their chances minus the chance that both happen. For independent loans both default 0.1 x 0.1 = 1% of the time, so at least one defaults 10% + 10% - 1% = 19%. The quicker route is through survival: 1 minus 0.9 squared.
With independent loans the two 10% default regions overlap in only 1% of outcomes, so at least one loan defaults 19% of the time; with perfect correlation the regions sit on top of each other, so at least one defaults only 10% of the time but both default in all of those 10%. The relationship0.1 each loan's chance of default (1 - 0.1)^2 the chance both repay, if the defaults are independent What it says in wordsAt least one default is everything except the case where both loans repay.What does perfect correlation change?
With perfect correlation the two loans default in exactly the same states of the world, so at least one defaults 10% of the time, and whenever one does, both do. The average is unchanged: 0.2 loans default on average in both worlds. But the independent pair loses both loans only 1% of the time, while the correlated pair loses both 10% of the time, ten times as often.
Outcome Independent Perfectly correlated Neither defaults 81% 90% Exactly one defaults 18% 0% Both default 1% 10% Expected defaults 0.2 0.2 The expected number of defaults is 0.2 loans in both cases, but the chance of losing both loans rises from 1% to 10% when the defaults are perfectly correlated. Why does a portfolio lender care?
A lender holds capital against bad years, not average years, and correlation decides how bad the bad years are. Loans to one sector, one city or one promoter group tend to default together, which is why banks cap their exposure by sector and by group. Diversification works only when defaults are not strongly linked: ten independent loans with a 10% default chance all repay 35% of the time, but ten loans to one industry can behave like one big loan. The limit: real correlations sit between zero and one and rise in downturns, exactly when they hurt most, so the two cases here are the bounds, not the answer.
Where candidates lose it
The quick wrong answer is 20%, adding the probabilities and double counting the 1% of outcomes where both loans default. Work from the chance that both repay and the error cannot happen.
The second loss is saying correlation does not matter because the expected loss is the same. The average is identical; the chance of losing both loans goes from 1% to 10%, and that tail is what a lender's capital is for.
What the interviewer asks next
- With a correlation between the two extremes, is the chance of at least one default above or below 19%?
- You hold 10 independent loans, each with a 10% default chance. What is the chance that none defaults?
- Why do default correlations tend to rise in a recession?
069Four anchor investors are each 60% likely to put in an order for your bond, independently of one another. You need at least three of them to launch. What is the probability that you launch?Syndicate desks
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Before you calculate: roughly what is the chance of launching?
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About 47.5%, a little under a coin flip. Exactly three anchors can happen in 4 ways, each with probability 0.6 x 0.6 x 0.6 x 0.4, so 4 x 0.0864 = 34.6%. All four come in with probability 0.6 to the fourth, 13.0%. Adding them gives 47.5%. Each anchor is more likely than not to order, yet needing most of a small group pulls the chance of launching below half.
How do you count the ways to get three of four?
Four friends each say they will probably come to dinner, 60% each, and you need three to keep the booking. The chance of any one pattern, say the first three come and the fourth does not, is 0.6 x 0.6 x 0.6 x 0.4 = 8.64%, and there are four such patterns, one for each friend who stays away. So exactly three come 4 x 8.64% = 34.6% of the time. All four come 0.6 to the fourth, 13.0% of the time. The booking survives 47.5% of the time.
The chance that three of the four anchors order is 34.6% and that all four order is 13.0%, so the deal launches 47.5% of the time even though each anchor is 60% likely to order. The relationshipX the number of anchors who order C(4,3) the four ways to choose which three anchors order 0.6, 0.4 each anchor's chance of ordering and of staying away What it says in wordsAdd the chance of exactly three anchors, counted over every pattern, to the chance of all four.Why is the answer below half when each anchor is likely?
Requiring most of a small group multiplies probabilities together, and products of numbers below one shrink fast. The most likely outcomes are two or three anchors, 34.6% each, so the launch hinges on which side of that line you land. If you needed only two anchors the chance would jump to 82.1%; if you needed all four it would fall to 13.0%. The threshold matters more than any single investor.
Say what a syndicate desk does with this. Either lower the threshold, by lining up a fifth anchor or sizing the deal so that fewer anchors are enough, or raise each anchor's probability before launch through early soundings. A fifth anchor at 60% lifts the chance of at least three from 47.5% to 68.3%; lifting each of the four to 70% gives 65.2%. The limit: anchors are rarely independent; they read the same market, so on a bad day they tend to drop out together, and the real chance is lower than this.
Where candidates lose it
The instinctive answer is about 60%, as if the group behaved like one anchor. Needing three of four is a joint event, and joint events are rarer than their parts.
The second loss is forgetting the four orderings and answering 8.64% plus 13.0%, or counting only the all-four case. Say the combination count out loud: four ways to choose which anchor stays away.
What the interviewer asks next
- What is the chance of launching if you add a fifth anchor, also 60% likely?
- If each anchor's chance rises to 70%, what is the chance of at least three of four?
- Why might anchor orders be positively correlated, and what does that do to the launch probability?
070A company trades at 8x EV/EBITDA on EBITDA of Rs 100 crore. Net debt is Rs 300 crore at 10% interest, depreciation is Rs 20 crore and the tax rate is 25%. What P/E is that?Credit researchLeveraged finance
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Which is closest to the P/E?
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About 13.3x. Equity value is enterprise value less net debt: 8 x 100 = 800, less 300, is Rs 500 crore. Net income is EBITDA of 100, less depreciation of 20 and interest of 30, which leaves 50 before tax and 37.5 after 25% tax. Rs 500 crore over Rs 37.5 crore is 13.3x. The same business looks cheap at 8x EBITDA and dearer on earnings, because depreciation, interest and tax all sit between the two profit lines.
Why can the two multiples not be compared directly?
The price of a flat and the price of the owner's stake in it differ when there is a home loan: an Rs 80 lakh flat with a Rs 30 lakh loan leaves Rs 50 lakh of equity. EV/EBITDA prices the whole business against profit available to all funders; P/E prices only the equity against profit left after lenders and the tax authority are paid. To move from one to the other, bridge the value by taking off net debt, and bridge the profit by taking off depreciation, interest and tax.
Enterprise value of Rs 800 crore less Rs 300 crore of net debt leaves Rs 500 crore of equity, and EBITDA of Rs 100 crore less depreciation, interest and tax leaves Rs 37.5 crore of net income, so 8.0x EBITDA becomes 13.3x earnings. The relationship8 x 100 - 300 equity value: enterprise value less net debt 100 - 20 - 30 profit before tax: EBITDA less depreciation and interest (1 - 0.25) what is left after 25% tax What it says in wordsBridge the numerator from enterprise to equity value and the denominator from EBITDA to net income, then divide.Where does the gap between 8x and 13.3x come from?
Bridge it in two moves. Depreciation and tax alone turn 8x EBITDA into 13.3x earnings: with no debt, EBIT of 80 taxed at 25% is 60, and 800 over 60 is 13.3x. So the gap here comes from the lines between EBITDA and net income, not from the debt. A business with heavy depreciation or a high tax rate always looks dearer on P/E than on EV/EBITDA.
Does the debt change the P/E at all?
With these numbers, no, and that is worth noticing. Leverage raises the P/E when the after-tax cost of debt is above the business's unlevered earnings yield, and lowers it when the cost is below. The unlevered earnings yield is 60 over 800, 7.5%; the after-tax cost of debt is 10% x 0.75, also 7.5%. Swapping equity for debt removes value and earnings in the same proportion, so the P/E stays at 13.3x. At 8% interest it would be 11.9x; at 12%, 15.2x.
Interest rate on Rs 300 crore Net income P/E on Rs 500 crore 8% 42.0 11.9x 10%, as given 37.5 13.3x 12% 33.0 15.2x Rs crore. With the after-tax cost of debt equal to the 7.5% unlevered earnings yield, leverage leaves the P/E at 13.3x; cheaper debt lowers it and dearer debt raises it. State the lesson for a credit desk. Never compare a P/E with an EV/EBITDA, or P/Es across companies with very different leverage, without bridging them first. The limit: this treats net debt as the only claim between enterprise and equity value; in real companies minority interests, leases and pension deficits also sit in that bridge.
Where candidates lose it
The fast wrong answer is 8x, treating the two multiples as interchangeable. They price different claims against different profit lines, so they match only by accident.
The second loss is forgetting the interest, which gives net income of 60 and a P/E of 8.3x, or dividing the whole enterprise value by net income, which gives 21.3x. Bridge the numerator and the denominator separately, and say each bridge out loud.
What the interviewer asks next
- At what interest rate on the debt would the P/E be exactly 10x?
- The company refinances at 12%. What happens to the P/E, and why?
- Why do lenders size leverage off EBITDA rather than earnings?
