Case 035Risk limits and drawdownsCore
A PM on the Hallorin Platform manages Rs 500 crore. At minus 5% for the year, capital is cut in half; at minus 7.5% the PM is stopped out. After the cut, what return must the PM earn on the smaller book to get back to flat, and how much more can be lost before the stop?
1The situation
Hallorin is a multi-manager platform. Each portfolio manager runs a sleeve of the firm's capital under the same drawdown rules, measured in rupees against the capital allocated at the start of the year. At a loss of 5% of starting capital, the PM's capital is cut in half. At a loss of 7.5% of starting capital, the PM is stopped out and the book is closed.
One PM started the year with Rs 500 crore and is now down Rs 25 crore, exactly 5%. Capital has just been cut to Rs 250 crore. The PM runs the book at about 8% annual volatility and, in a normal year, earns about 8% on capital.
2Your task
What return on the smaller book gets the PM back to flat, how much room is left before the stop, and how should the PM run the book from here?
Quick check
After the cut, what return on the Rs 250 crore book gets the PM back to flat for the year?
Worked solution
Try it on paper, then open one step at a time.
30-second answerThe answer to give first
The PM needs 10% on the smaller book to get back to flat, but only 5% more loss triggers the stop. Rs 25 crore must be earned back on Rs 250 crore, while the stop at minus Rs 37.5 crore is Rs 12.5 crore away. With no edge, the PM reaches flat before the stop about one time in three; with a real edge, about 73% of the time. Adding risk to win it back faster lowers those odds.
Step 1Why does the cut make recovery so much harder?
A shopkeeper who loses Rs 25,000 in a bad quarter and then has his shelf space halved by the landlord must earn the Rs 25,000 back from half the shelves. The cut leaves the rupee hole unchanged and halves the capital that has to fill it, so the percentage needed to recover doubles. Rs 25 crore was 5% of Rs 500 crore; it is 10% of Rs 250 crore. At the PM's normal 8% a year, now earned on Rs 250 crore, that is Rs 20 crore a year, so reaching flat takes about 15 months of ordinary performance.
Step 2How much room is left before the stop?
The stop is measured against starting capital: 7.5% of Rs 500 crore is Rs 37.5 crore. The PM has lost Rs 25 crore, so only Rs 12.5 crore of further loss remains. On the Rs 250 crore book that is 5%, half the distance to flat, so the PM is closer to the exit than to recovery. This is by design: the platform wants a PM in a drawdown to run less risk, and the cut forces it.
Step 3What are the odds of getting back before being stopped?
With no edge, profit and loss wander like a fair coin, and the chance of reaching plus Rs 25 crore before minus Rs 12.5 crore is 12.5 divided by 37.5, one in three. An edge changes that sharply: at 8% volatility, Rs 20 crore a year on Rs 250 crore, and an expected return of the same size, the chance rises to about 73%. The table shows the tempting move. A PM who doubles risk to recover faster doubles both the expected gain and the swings, and the chance of reaching flat first falls to about 55%, because bigger swings hit the nearer barrier sooner.
| How the PM runs the book | Expected P&L, Rs crore a year | Volatility, Rs crore a year | Chance of flat before stop |
|---|---|---|---|
| No edge, normal risk | 0 | 20 | 33% |
| Real edge, normal risk | 20 | 20 | 73% |
| Real edge, risk doubled | 40 | 40 | 55% |
Step 4How should the PM run the book from here?
Keep risk in proportion to the smaller book, cut the positions with the weakest conviction first, and stop measuring success against the year's starting line. The goal after a cut is to stay in the seat, because a PM who survives the year keeps the chance to be given capital back; a PM who is stopped out does not. Say the limitation too: the odds come from a simple random-walk model, and real P&L has fat tails and streaks, so treat one in three and about three in four as the shape of the answer, not a forecast.
Where candidates lose it
The common answer is 5%: the loss was 5%, so earn 5%. That forgets the capital has halved while the rupee hole has not. The interviewer wants 10% and the reason in one breath.
The more revealing mistake is saying the PM should take more risk to get back to flat before year end. Doubling risk makes the stop more likely, not less; platforms cut capital exactly to stop that behaviour, and an interviewer at a multi-manager is listening for whether you understand why.
What the interviewer asks next
- The platform measured the stop against current capital instead of starting capital. How much room would the PM have?
- Why do platforms cut capital before stopping a PM out, rather than using a single stop?
- The PM gets back to minus 2% by October. Should capital be restored?
- How do these rules change how a PM sizes a new position?
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