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  1. 001A bank fixed deposit pays 7% a year. Your interest is taxed at a 30% slab, assumed here for the arithmetic, and inflation runs at 6%. What is your real return after tax, and roughly how many years until the deposit has lost 10% of its purchasing power?Compounding and time valueCoreIndian AMCsDistribution and sales

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    Before you calculate: what does the deposit earn in real, after-tax terms?

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    About -1.0% a year, so the deposit loses about 10% of its purchasing power in roughly 10 years. Tax at 30% turns 7% into 4.9%. Inflation of 6% then shrinks what that buys: 1.049 divided by 1.06, less 1, is -1.04%. Compounding that loss, Rs 1 lakh buys what Rs 90,094 buys today after ten years.

    Why does the order of tax and inflation matter?

    Think of a salary rise that matches price rises but pushes you into a higher tax bracket. On paper you kept pace; in the shop you did not. Tax is charged on the whole nominal interest, including the part that only makes up for inflation, so the investor pays tax on money that is not a real gain. That is why you take tax off first, on the 7%, and only then compare what is left with inflation.

    Tax of 30% on 7% is 2.1 points, leaving 4.9%. Inflation at 6% is bigger than 4.9%, so the deposit is already behind before any compounding. The quick answer is 4.9 minus 6, about minus 1.1%; the exact answer uses the ratio, because both rates compound.

    7% on paper, minus 1% in what the money buys7.0%Depositrate-2.1Tax at30% slab4.9%Aftertax-5.9Inflationat 6%-1.0%Real,after taxWhat Rs 1 lakh buys, in today's rupeesRs 90,000Rs 1,00,000 todayabout 10 years04812Years held
    A 7% deposit taxed at an assumed 30% slab keeps 4.9%, and 6% inflation turns that into a real return of about -1.0% a year, so Rs 1 lakh held in the deposit buys about 10% less after roughly 10 years.
    The relationship
    rreal=1+i(1−t)1+π−1=1.0491.06−1≈−1.04%r_{\text{real}} = \frac{1 + i(1-t)}{1 + \pi} - 1 = \frac{1.049}{1.06} - 1 \approx -1.04\%
    ithe nominal deposit rate, 7%
    tthe assumed tax slab, 30%
    \piinflation, 6%
    What it says in wordsGrow the money at the after-tax rate, shrink its buying power at the inflation rate, and the ratio is the real return.

    How do you get from minus 1% a year to ten years?

    Losing 1% a year compounds, but slowly. Ten years of losing about 1.04% a year leaves 0.9896 to the power 10, about 0.90, so roughly 10% of purchasing power is gone in about 10 years. The exact figure is the log of 0.9 over the log of 0.9896, which is 10.1 years. A rule of thumb works too: a 1% annual loss takes about 70 years to halve the money, so about a seventh of that for a tenth.

    Say the limitation. The 30% slab and 6% inflation are assumptions for this arithmetic, and your own slab and the inflation you actually face may differ; confirm the current tax rules before using a slab in advice. The point survives any sensible inputs: a deposit is safe in rupees and can still lose ground in what those rupees buy.

    Where candidates lose it

    The fast wrong answer is plus 1%: seven minus six. It forgets that tax is charged on the nominal 7%, including the 6% that only replaces lost buying power. Candidates who say it have shown the interviewer they would mis-sell a deposit to a client in a high bracket.

    The second trap is getting minus 1% and then answering the time question linearly, ten years at 1% is exactly 10%. It is close here, but say that it compounds and give the log form; the interviewer is checking you know why it is close.

    What the interviewer asks next

    • What deposit rate would just keep a 30% taxpayer level with 6% inflation?
    • How does the answer change for an investor with no taxable income?
    • Why might a debt fund held for several years be compared with a deposit on an after-tax basis, and what would you check first?
  2. 002Fund A has 20% annual volatility and fund B has 12%. Their returns have a correlation of 0.3. What is the volatility of a portfolio that is 60% A and 40% B, and why is it below the 16.8% weighted average?Statistics, correlation and diversificationCoreFund research and ratingsGlobal asset managers

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    Pick the portfolio's volatility before you work it.

    Show the worked solution

    About 14.2%, against a weighted average of 16.8%. Variance is 0.6 squared times 20% squared, plus 0.4 squared times 12% squared, plus twice 0.6 times 0.4 times 0.3 times 20% times 12%, which sums to 0.0202. Its square root is 14.2%. The 2.6 point gap exists only because the correlation is below 1.

    Why is the mix not just the average of the two volatilities?

    Two friends walking home on a windy night: if they stumble at exactly the same moments, holding hands does not steady them. If their stumbles come at different moments, each one's lean is partly caught by the other. Only the part of the two funds' swings that happens together adds up in full; the rest partly cancels, so the portfolio is calmer than the average of its parts. Correlation of 0.3 says most of their swings are not shared.

    The mix is calmer than the average of its partsFund A20.0%Fund B12.0%Weighted average16.8%60/40 mix, actual14.2%Gap of 2.6 points: the part ofeach fund's swings the other one cancelsMix volatility16.8%: only if correlation = 10.3 gives 14.2%7.2% at -1-101Correlation between A and B
    A 60/40 mix of a 20% and a 12% volatility fund has 14.2% volatility at a correlation of 0.3, below the 16.8% weighted average, and it would only reach 16.8% if the two funds moved in perfect step.

    How do you work it quickly on paper?

    Square the volatilities first, because variances are what add. Fund A's weighted variance is 0.36 times 0.04, which is 0.0144. Fund B's is 0.16 times 0.0144, which is 0.0023. The cross term is where correlation lives: 2 times 0.6 times 0.4 times 0.3 times 0.20 times 0.12 is 0.0035. The total is 0.0202, and the square root of 0.02 is about 0.141, so 14.2% is the answer.

    The relationship
    σp=wA2σA2+wB2σB2+2wAwBρ σAσB=0.0202≈14.2%\sigma_p = \sqrt{w_A^2\sigma_A^2 + w_B^2\sigma_B^2 + 2w_Aw_B\rho\,\sigma_A\sigma_B} = \sqrt{0.0202} \approx 14.2\%
    w_A, w_Bthe weights, 0.6 and 0.4
    \sigma_A, \sigma_Bthe funds' volatilities, 20% and 12%
    \rhothe correlation between them, 0.3
    What it says in wordsPortfolio variance is each fund's own variance, weighted, plus a shared term scaled by how closely the two move together.

    Give the two edges to show you see the shape. At a correlation of 1 the formula collapses to the weighted average, 16.8%. At zero the cross term vanishes and the mix is 12.9%. At minus 1 it drops to 7.2%. The limitation is that correlations measured in calm years often rise in a selloff, so the benefit you computed can shrink exactly when it is wanted.

    Where candidates lose it

    Candidates answer 16.8% because averaging feels natural and the weights are right there. It is only true at a correlation of 1, and saying it tells the interviewer you do not see where diversification comes from.

    The second loss is mixing units: adding volatilities in one term and variances in another, or forgetting the factor of 2 on the cross term. Write the formula once, square everything first, and take one square root at the end.

    What the interviewer asks next

    • What correlation would make the 60/40 mix exactly as volatile as fund B on its own?
    • Which weight in A gives the lowest possible volatility at a correlation of 0.3?
    • Why might this calculation understate risk in a market crash?
  3. 004A fund's NAV goes from 10 to 15 in year one and falls to 12 by the end of year two. An investor put in Rs 1 lakh at the start and another Rs 5 lakh after year one. The fund returned about 9.5% a year. What did the investor earn?Performance measurement and returnsHardFund research and ratingsIndian AMCs

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    The fund made money over the two years. Did this investor?

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    He lost about 11.6% a year while the fund made 9.5% a year. Rs 1 lakh bought 10,000 units at 10 and Rs 5 lakh bought 33,333 units at 15. At NAV 12 his 43,333 units are worth Rs 5.2 lakh against Rs 6 lakh put in. The rate that makes those cash flows balance, his internal rate of return, is -11.6% a year.

    How can the fund and the investor disagree on the return?

    Picture a shop that sells ten mangoes at a profit on Monday, then stocks up on a hundred on Tuesday just before the price drops. The shop's price record looks fine; the owner's till does not. The fund's return measures what one rupee did if it stayed the whole time; the investor's return weights each period by how much of his money was there. Here only Rs 1 lakh enjoyed the rise from 10 to 15, and Rs 6.5 lakh suffered the fall to 12.

    Same fund, same two years, two different returnsNAVNAV 10NAV 15NAV 12Investor's money, Rs lakh1.0 in+5.0 in1.56.0 put in5.2 worthStartYear 1Year 2The fund+9.5%a year, time-weightedNAV 10 to 12 in 2 yearsThe investor-11.6%a year, money-weightedmost money bought at 15
    The NAV rose from 10 to 15 and fell to 12, a fund return of 9.5% a year, but the investor put Rs 5 of his Rs 6 lakh in at 15, so his holding ends at Rs 5.2 lakh and his money-weighted return is -11.6% a year.

    How do you compute the investor's figure without a calculator?

    Count units, then value them. Rs 1 lakh at 10 buys 10,000 units; Rs 5 lakh at 15 buys 33,333. That is 43,333 units, worth Rs 520,000 at 12. The money-weighted return is the single rate r that makes the two payments, grown at r, equal the final value. With x as 1 plus r, x squared plus 5x equals 5.2, and the positive root is 0.8838, so r is -11.6%.

    The relationship
    1⋅x2+5⋅x=5.2  ⇒  x=−5+25+20.82=0.884,r=x−1≈−11.6%1\cdot x^2 + 5\cdot x = 5.2 \;\Rightarrow\; x = \frac{-5 + \sqrt{25 + 20.8}}{2} = 0.884,\quad r = x - 1 \approx -11.6\%
    1 and 5the payments in Rs lakh at the start and after year one
    xone plus the investor's annual return
    5.2the holding's value in Rs lakh at the end of year two
    What it says in wordsGrow each payment at one unknown rate to the end date and solve for the rate that matches what the holding is worth.

    The fund's own figure is simple: 12 over 10 is 1.2 in two years, and the square root of 1.2 is 1.0954, so 9.54% a year. That is the number a factsheet shows, because the manager does not choose when investors arrive. The investor's IRR is the number his account statement should show, and it is the one his experience matches.

    Where candidates lose it

    Most candidates answer 9.5% or a smaller positive number, because they assume the investor must share the fund's result. The interviewer is testing whether you know two returns exist and which one belongs to whom.

    The second trap is dividing the total loss by the total invested, Rs 0.8 lakh on Rs 6 lakh. That ignores that Rs 1 lakh was in for two years and Rs 5 lakh for one; the IRR handles the timing.

    What the interviewer asks next

    • Which of the two numbers should a fund manager be judged on, and why?
    • If the Rs 5 lakh had gone in at the start instead, what would the investor have earned?
    • Why do investors in a fund often earn less than the fund's reported return over long periods?
  4. 007Tarvela AMC's assets under management rose from Rs 40,000 crore to Rs 52,000 crore over a period in which the industry grew from Rs 5 lakh crore to Rs 7 lakh crore. Did Tarvela's market share rise?Logic and numeracy brainteasersWarm upIndian AMCsGlobal asset managers

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    Quick call: what happened to Tarvela's share?

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    No. Tarvela's share fell from 8.0% to about 7.4%. Its AUM grew 30% while the industry grew 40%. Share is 40,000 over 5,00,000 before and 52,000 over 7,00,000 after. To hold 8% Tarvela needed Rs 56,000 crore, so it is Rs 4,000 crore short of standing still. Growing slower than your market means losing share while growing.

    Why can a business grow and still shrink?

    A child who grows 3 cm in a year while every classmate grows 5 cm is taller than last year and lower in the line-up. Market share is a ratio, so it rises only when your growth beats the market's, and a large rupee gain means nothing on its own. Tarvela's Rs 12,000 crore gain sounds big until you set it next to the industry's Rs 2 lakh crore.

    Growing 30% in a market growing 40% loses share+30%Tarvela AMC40,000 to 52,000+40%Industry5 to 7 lakh croreGrowth in AUM over the period, Rs croreMarket share8.0%7.4%8.0% would need Rs 56,000 croreBeforeAfterShare falls although AUM rose Rs 12,000 crore
    Tarvela AMC grew its assets 30% while the industry grew 40%, so its market share fell from 8.0% to 7.4%, and holding 8% would have needed Rs 56,000 crore rather than Rs 52,000 crore.

    What is the fastest way to answer without dividing big numbers?

    Compare growth factors. New share equals old share times Tarvela's growth factor over the industry's: 8% times 1.30 over 1.40. 1.3 over 1.4 is about 0.93, so the share falls by about 7% of itself, from 8.0% to 7.43%. You never need to divide 52,000 by 7,00,000 unless asked for the decimal.

    The relationship
    s1=s0×1+gAMC1+gind=8.0%×1.301.40=7.43%s_1 = s_0 \times \frac{1 + g_{AMC}}{1 + g_{ind}} = 8.0\% \times \frac{1.30}{1.40} = 7.43\%
    s_0, s_1market share before and after
    g_{AMC}Tarvela's AUM growth, 30%
    g_{ind}the industry's AUM growth, 40%
    What it says in wordsShare moves by the ratio of your growth factor to the market's.

    Add the analyst's question. AUM growth has two parts, market movement and net flows. If Tarvela is heavier in a segment that rose less, it could lose share with no problem in its sales. Splitting growth into the part the market gave and the part investors gave is the next thing an interviewer will ask for.

    Where candidates lose it

    The trap is answering yes because Rs 12,000 crore of growth sounds impressive. The interviewer has deliberately given a big absolute gain in a market growing faster, to see whether you reach for the ratio.

    The second slip is subtracting growth rates, 30 minus 40, and saying share fell by 10 points. Share fell by about 0.57 points, from 8.0% to 7.43%; it is the ratio 1.3 over 1.4 that matters.

    What the interviewer asks next

    • What growth did Tarvela need to gain half a point of share?
    • How would you split Tarvela's growth into market movement and net inflows?
    • Why might an AMC accept losing share in one category?
  5. 009A thousand fund managers have no skill at all: each has a 50% chance of beating the index in any year, independently. How many beat it five years in a row by luck, and what is the chance that at least one beats it ten years running?Probability and expected valueCoreFund research and ratingsIndian AMCs

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    Guess the chance that at least one of the thousand posts a ten-year streak.

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    About 31 managers beat the index five years running by luck alone, and there is about a 62% chance that at least one beats it ten years running. Each year halves the survivors: 1,000, 500, 250, 125, 62.5, 31.25. For ten years, one manager's chance is 1 in 1,024, so the chance none of the thousand does it is (1023/1024) to the 1,000th, about 38%.

    Why do perfect records appear even when nobody is skilled?

    Ask a stadium of a thousand people to toss a coin and sit down on tails. After five rounds about 31 are still standing, and each of them has a perfect record. A streak that is rare for one person is expected somewhere in a large enough crowd, so the size of the starting group matters as much as the length of the streak. The five-year count is just 1,000 halved five times.

    No skill at all, yet about 31 perfect five-year records1,000Start500Year 1250Year 2125Year 362.5Year 4about 31Year 5the answerEach year half the survivorslose their coin tossTen years in a rowfor at least one62%1 minus (1023/1024)to the power 1,000
    Starting from 1,000 managers with no skill, halving each year leaves about 31 with a perfect five-year record, and the chance that at least one of the 1,000 posts a ten-year streak is about 62%.

    How do you get the ten-year figure without a calculator?

    Go through the complement: work out the chance that nobody does it. Each manager fails with probability 1023 over 1024. For many small independent chances, (1 minus 1/n) to the power n is close to 1 over e, about 0.37, and here the power is 1,000 against 1,024, so the chance nobody does it is about 0.38. That leaves about 62% for at least one ten-year streak.

    The relationship
    P(at least one)=1−(1−11024)1000≈1−e−0.977≈62%P(\text{at least one}) = 1 - \left(1 - \tfrac{1}{1024}\right)^{1000} \approx 1 - e^{-0.977} \approx 62\%
    1/1024one manager's chance of ten wins in a row, one half to the tenth
    1000the number of managers trying
    What it says in wordsTake the chance that every manager fails, and one minus that is the chance at least one succeeds.

    Say what it means for fund selection. A long record of beating the index is evidence, but weaker evidence than it looks when it is picked from a large universe after the fact. The limitation of the model is that real returns are not coin tosses and some managers do have skill; the puzzle only shows how much luck alone can produce.

    Where candidates lose it

    The trap in the second part is answering 1 in 1,024 or 0.1%, the chance for one named manager, when the question asks about anyone in the group. It is the same slip as being amazed that someone at a party shares your birthday.

    The other slip is adding the chances, 1,000 times 1 in 1,024, to get 98%. That double counts the cases where two or more managers succeed; the complement avoids it.

    What the interviewer asks next

    • How many managers would you expect with exactly four wins out of five years?
    • If one manager in the group truly beats the index 60% of years, how likely is a ten-year streak for them?
    • Why does survivorship, funds closing after bad years, make published track records look better still?
  6. 010A Rs 1,000 crore equity fund has a 1.5% annual expense ratio. How much is charged each day, where does the charge show up, and why does an investor never see a fee deducted from their account?NAV, units and fund mechanicsCoreFund operationsRegistrars and transfer agents

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    Where does the daily expense actually come out?

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    About Rs 4.1 lakh a day, taken inside the NAV. 1.5% of Rs 1,000 crore is Rs 15 crore a year; divided by 365 it is about Rs 4.11 lakh a day. The fund books that as a liability before striking the NAV, so each unit is worth a little less, about 0.21 paise a day at an NAV of 50. The investor never sees a deduction because the cost is already in the price.

    If nothing is deducted, how is the fee paid?

    Think of a restaurant that folds the service charge into the menu price instead of adding it to the bill. You pay it with every dish; you just never see a line saying so. A fund's expenses are charged to the scheme itself every day, so they reduce net assets and the NAV, and the investor pays through a slightly lower price per unit rather than a visible deduction. The number of units you hold never changes because of the fee.

    The fee is taken inside the NAV, one day at a time1.5% a yearon Rs 1,000 croreRs 15 croreDivide by 365accrued every dayRs 4.1 lakhBooked as a liabilitynet assets fallbefore the NAVNAV struck netper unit at NAV 500.21 paiseWhat the investor seesNAV each day, already net of that day's share of the feeNo line on the statement says fee; the cost is inside the priceRs 15 crore a year
    A 1.5% expense ratio on Rs 1,000 crore is Rs 15 crore a year, about Rs 4.1 lakh accrued each day as a scheme liability, so the NAV every investor sees is already net of that day's cost.

    How small is it per unit, and why does that matter?

    At an NAV of 50, one day's share is 50 times 1.5% over 365, about Rs 0.0021, or 0.21 paise. Nobody notices a fifth of a paise a day, which is exactly why the expense ratio has to be read off the factsheet rather than felt in the account. Across a year it is 1.5% of the money, and it compounds as a drag like any other cost.

    The relationship
    Daily accrual=1,000×0.015365=0.0411 crore≈Rs 4.1 lakh\text{Daily accrual} = \frac{1{,}000 \times 0.015}{365} = 0.0411 \text{ crore} \approx \text{Rs } 4.1 \text{ lakh}
    1,000the scheme's net assets in Rs crore
    0.015the annual expense ratio
    365days over which the annual charge is spread
    What it says in wordsSpread the yearly percentage across the days and charge that slice to the scheme each day.

    Two practical points complete the answer. Because assets change every day, the accrual is recomputed on each day's net assets rather than fixed at Rs 4.1 lakh. And the published returns of a fund are already after this cost, so a fair comparison with an index must use the fund's NAV returns against the index's total return. Expense ratio limits are set by regulation and change; confirm the current SEBI framework before quoting one.

    Where candidates lose it

    The common wrong picture is that the fee is billed once a year or taken by cancelling units, as a bank might debit a charge. Candidates who say it in a fund operations interview show they have not seen how the NAV is struck.

    The second slip is dividing by 250 trading days. The charge accrues on every calendar day, so divide by 365 and say why.

    What the interviewer asks next

    • How would the daily accrual change if the fund's assets doubled over the year?
    • Why do the direct and regular plans of the same scheme have different NAVs?
    • Where on a factsheet or annual report would you find the expense ratio?
  7. 012A client needs Rs 2 lakh. He holds fund A, bought for Rs 4 lakh and now worth Rs 5.2 lakh, up 30%, and fund B, bought for Rs 4 lakh and now worth Rs 3 lakh, down 25%. He wants to sell A to lock in the profit. Using an assumed 12.5% tax rate on gains, compare selling A with selling B.Behavioural trapsCoreWealth and advisoryDistribution and sales

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    On tax alone, how far apart are the two choices?

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    Selling B is cheaper on tax by up to about Rs 14,103, and the right question is which fund he would buy today. Rs 2 lakh of A carries a gain of Rs 46,154, so Rs 5,769 of tax at the assumed 12.5%. Rs 2 lakh of B carries a loss of Rs 66,667: no tax, and a loss that can offset other gains. The urge to sell the winner is the disposition effect.

    Why does selling the winner feel right?

    Picture someone clearing out a wardrobe who gives away the shirts he likes and keeps the ones that never fit, because giving those away would admit the purchase was a mistake. The disposition effect is the habit of selling what has gone up to enjoy the gain and holding what has gone down to avoid the regret, and it decides on the past price rather than on the future. The purchase price of each fund is a fact about the client, not about the funds.

    How much does the instinct cost in tax?

    Only the gain inside the units sold is taxed. A is worth 1.3 times its cost, so 0.3 over 1.3, about 23%, of any rupee sold is gain: Rs 46,154 on Rs 2 lakh, and Rs 5,769 of tax at the assumed 12.5%. B is worth 0.75 times its cost, so every Rs 2 lakh sold realises a loss of Rs 66,667, pays nothing now and can be set against other gains, worth up to Rs 8,333 at the same rate. The full swing between the two is up to Rs 14,103.

    Same Rs 2 lakh raised, two different tax billsSell Rs 2 lakh of A, the winnerGain realisedRs 46,154Tax at assumed 12.5%Rs 5,769Loss left to set offnoneLeft invested, Rs lakh3.2Fund A3.0Fund BSell Rs 2 lakh of B, the loserLoss realisedRs 66,667Tax on this saleRs 0Loss left to set offworth up to Rs 8,333Left invested, Rs lakh5.2Fund A1.0Fund B
    Raising Rs 2 lakh from the winner costs Rs 5,769 of tax at an assumed 12.5%, while raising it from the loser costs nothing and leaves a loss worth up to Rs 8,333 against other gains, a swing of up to Rs 14,103.
    The relationship
    Gain in sale=S×V−CV=2×0.31.3=0.4615 lakh,Loss=2×0.250.75=0.6667 lakh\text{Gain in sale} = S\times\frac{V-C}{V} = 2 \times \frac{0.3}{1.3} = 0.4615 \text{ lakh},\qquad \text{Loss} = 2 \times \frac{0.25}{0.75} = 0.6667 \text{ lakh}
    Sthe amount sold, Rs 2 lakh
    Vthe current value per rupee of cost: 1.3 for A, 0.75 for B
    Cthe cost per rupee of cost, 1
    What it says in wordsThe share of a sale that is gain, or loss, equals the share of today's value that sits above, or below, the cost.

    Is tax the whole answer?

    No, and saying so is what earns the marks. The test that cuts through the feeling is this: if the client held only cash today, would he buy A, B, or neither in these amounts? If B fell because its strategy has stopped working, selling it fixes the portfolio and saves tax. If B fell with its whole category and A has simply had a good run, the portfolio question is about weights and concentration, not about which one he feels good selling.

    State the limits. The 12.5% rate is an assumption for the arithmetic; real rules distinguish short and long holding periods, can carry exemption thresholds, and restrict which gains a loss may be set against. Confirm the current rules before using any rate with a client. And this is a framework for a conversation, not an instruction about any real fund.

    Where candidates lose it

    The common slip is computing tax on the whole Rs 2 lakh, Rs 25,000, as if the sale proceeds were all profit. Only the gain inside the units sold is taxed, and on A that is under a quarter of the proceeds.

    The deeper slip is agreeing with the client because locking in profit sounds prudent. The interviewer is checking whether you notice that the decision is being made on purchase prices, and whether you can redirect it to the question of which holding deserves the money today.

    What the interviewer asks next

    • How would the answer change if fund B were down only 2%?
    • What is the disposition effect's mirror image when markets are rising fast?
    • How would you raise this with a client who is proud of fund A's gain?
  8. 013A parent needs Rs 50 lakh in 12 years for a child's education and assumes 11% a year. What monthly SIP does that take? And why does waiting three years before starting raise the SIP by about 62%, rather than the 25% most people guess?Compounding and time valueHardIndian AMCsDistribution and sales

    Try it first

    Starting three years late, how much larger is the monthly SIP?

    Show the worked solution

    About Rs 16,691 a month now, and about Rs 27,048 after a three-year wait, 62% more. At 11% a year, taken as 0.917% a month and paid at the start of each month, 144 payments of Rs 16,691 grow to Rs 50 lakh. With 108 payments the SIP must be Rs 27,048. The early years carry the most growth, so losing them costs far more than their share of time.

    How do you get the starting SIP?

    A monthly SIP is a stream of equal payments, each growing until the goal date. The first rupee grows for 144 months, the last for one. Add up what one rupee a month becomes, and the required SIP is the goal divided by that sum. At 11% a year, taken as 11 over 12, about 0.917% a month, one rupee paid at the start of each month for 144 months grows to about 300. Rs 50 lakh divided by 299.6 is Rs 16,691.

    The relationship
    SIP=FV(1+i)n−1i (1+i)=50,00,0001.00917144−10.00917×1.00917≈Rs 16,691\text{SIP} = \frac{FV}{\dfrac{(1+i)^n - 1}{i}\,(1+i)} = \frac{50{,}00{,}000}{\dfrac{1.00917^{144}-1}{0.00917}\times 1.00917} \approx \text{Rs } 16{,}691
    FVthe goal, Rs 50 lakh
    ithe monthly rate, 11% divided by 12
    nthe number of monthly payments, 144
    (1+i)one extra month of growth because each payment is made at the start of the month
    What it says in wordsThe SIP is the goal divided by what a rupee a month grows into over the period.

    Why is the cost of waiting not proportional to the wait?

    Think of planting trees for shade in twelve years. A tree planted in year one is huge by the deadline; one planted in year ten is a sapling. Skip the first three years of planting and you cannot make it up by planting a few extra saplings later. The payments a delay removes are the ones that would have compounded the longest, so the later SIP must replace both the missing payments and the growth they would have earned. Starting now, Rs 24.0 lakh paid in becomes Rs 50 lakh; starting late, Rs 29.2 lakh has to be paid in, because growth contributes Rs 20.8 lakh instead of Rs 26.0 lakh.

    Waiting three years costs 62% more a month, not 25%16,691Start now20,864Guess+25%22,255Same totalover 9 years27,048Wait 3 yearsMonthly SIP needed, RsWhere the Rs 50 lakh comes from, Rs lakhpaid 24.0growth 26.0Start nowpaid 29.2growth 20.8Wait 3 years11% a year assumed, paid at the start of each month
    A three-year delay raises the monthly SIP from Rs 16,691 to Rs 27,048, 62% more, because growth supplies Rs 20.8 lakh of the goal instead of Rs 26.0 lakh and the parent must pay the difference.

    The two guesses are worth naming. Twenty-five per cent comes from three years being a quarter of twelve. Thirty-three per cent comes from spreading the same total contributions over nine years instead of twelve, Rs 22,255 a month. Both ignore growth. The true figure, Rs 27,048, sits well above both.

    Say the limits. Eleven per cent is an assumption, not a forecast, and equity returns arrive unevenly; a plan built on one smooth rate should be checked against lower rates and reviewed as the date nears. Monthly compounding at 11 over 12 slightly overstates an 11% annual rate; using the exact monthly equivalent raises the SIP to about Rs 17,300, and the ratio of about 1.6 survives either way.

    Where candidates lose it

    The common slip is linear thinking: three years of twelve, so 25% more. It treats the SIP as a savings jar with no growth. The interviewer is testing whether you can see that the first payments do the most work.

    The second slip is computing the goal as an ordinary annuity in one place and an annuity due in another, or mixing the 11 over 12 monthly rate with the exact monthly rate. Pick one convention, state it, and keep it for both SIPs; the ratio barely changes.

    What the interviewer asks next

    • What lump sum invested today would replace the SIP entirely?
    • If returns came in at 9% instead of 11%, how short would the original SIP fall?
    • How would a 10% yearly step-up in the SIP change the starting amount?
  9. 014A bond has a modified duration of 7 and a convexity of 80. Yields rise by 150 basis points. Estimate the percentage price change with duration alone, then with convexity added.Bond maths and durationHardFixed income desksIndian AMCs

    Try it first

    With convexity added, what is the estimated price change?

    Show the worked solution

    About -10.5% with duration alone and about -9.6% with convexity. Duration gives -7 times 0.015, which is -10.5%. Convexity adds one half times 80 times 0.015 squared, or +0.90%. The price-yield curve bends upward, so a straight-line duration estimate overstates losses when yields rise and understates gains when they fall, and the gap grows with the square of the move.

    Why is duration alone not enough for a big move?

    Think of estimating how far a ball thrown upward will fall back by looking only at its speed at the start. For a moment the straight line is fine; over a longer stretch the curve of its path takes over. Duration is the slope of the price-yield curve at today's yield, so it is exact for tiny moves and drifts further from the true price the larger the move. The curve bends upward for an ordinary bond, so it always sits above the tangent.

    Duration is the tangent; the bond sits on the curve above it808590951001050+100+150+200+300Change in yield, basis pointsPrice90.4 with convexity89.5 duration aloneYields up 150 bpDuration term-10.5%Convexity term+0.9%Estimate-9.6%the gap grows with thesquare of the move
    For a 150 basis point rise, the duration tangent puts the price at 89.5 while the curve with convexity puts it at 90.4, so duration alone overstates the loss by 0.9 points, and the gap widens as the move grows.

    How do you compute both estimates quickly?

    Write the move as a decimal first, 0.015. The duration term is minus duration times the move, -7 times 0.015, which is -10.5%; the convexity term is half the convexity times the move squared, 40 times 0.000225, which is +0.90%. Add them: -9.60%. For a 150 basis point fall the same two terms give +10.5% plus 0.90%, a gain of 11.40%, so convexity helps in both directions.

    The relationship
    ΔPP≈−Dmod Δy+12 C (Δy)2=−7(0.015)+12(80)(0.015)2=−10.5%+0.9%=−9.6%\frac{\Delta P}{P} \approx -D_{mod}\,\Delta y + \tfrac{1}{2}\,C\,(\Delta y)^2 = -7(0.015) + \tfrac{1}{2}(80)(0.015)^2 = -10.5\% + 0.9\% = -9.6\%
    D_{mod}modified duration, 7
    Cconvexity, 80
    \Delta ythe change in yield as a decimal, 0.015
    What it says in wordsThe price change is the straight-line duration estimate plus a correction for the curve that grows with the square of the move.

    The squared term is why size matters. At 50 basis points the convexity term is only +0.10%, easy to ignore; at 300 basis points it is +3.6%, too large to leave out. The limitation is that this is still a two-term approximation of a curve; for very large moves, or for bonds with call features whose convexity can turn negative, a desk reprices the bond in full rather than trusting the formula.

    Where candidates lose it

    The common slip is subtracting the convexity term because yields went up, giving -11.4%. For an ordinary bond the convexity term is positive in both directions; the squared move has no sign.

    The other slip is a units error: using 1.5 instead of 0.015, which makes the convexity term 90 and the answer absurd, or forgetting the one half. Convert basis points to a decimal before anything else and say the half out loud.

    What the interviewer asks next

    • Why is convexity valuable to a bondholder, and what does the market charge for it?
    • Why can a callable bond show negative convexity when yields fall?
    • Which has more convexity at the same duration, a bullet bond or a barbell of short and long bonds?
  10. 015A retiree holds units of a fund bought at an NAV of 40, now at 60, and withdraws Rs 50,000 a month through a systematic withdrawal plan. What part of each withdrawal is gain? And why is the SWP taxed more lightly than Rs 50,000 a month of fixed deposit interest, at any assumed tax rate?Withdrawals and after-tax arithmeticCoreWealth and advisoryDistribution and sales

    Try it first

    Of each Rs 50,000 withdrawn, how much is gain?

    Show the worked solution

    One third of each withdrawal, about Rs 16,667, is gain, and only that part is taxable. Rs 50,000 at NAV 60 redeems 833.33 units that cost 40 each, so Rs 33,333 is the investor's own capital returning. Deposit interest of Rs 50,000 is income in full. At any single assumed rate t, tax on the SWP is t times Rs 16,667 against t times Rs 50,000.

    Is a withdrawal income?

    Think of selling three of your own mangoes that you bought at Rs 40 each and can now sell at Rs 60. You receive Rs 180, but only Rs 60 of it is profit; Rs 120 is your money coming back. An SWP is a monthly sale of units, and each unit sold returns its purchase cost plus the gain on it, so only the gain portion is a taxable gain. At cost 40 and NAV 60, the gain is 20 out of 60, one third of every rupee withdrawn.

    Rs 50,000 out either way; only the gain part is taxedSWP from the fundown money back, Rs 33,333gain, Rs 16,667Deposit interestinterest, all taxable, Rs 50,000cost 40 of NAV 60: two thirds is capitaltax Rs 5,000tax Rs 15,000Tax shown at an assumed 30% on both, for the arithmetic only. Confirm current rules:the gain on fund units and deposit interest are taxed under different heads.
    Each Rs 50,000 SWP withdrawal is two thirds the investor's own capital and one third gain, so at an assumed 30% rate it bears Rs 5,000 of tax, while Rs 50,000 of deposit interest is taxable in full and bears Rs 15,000.
    The relationship
    Gain share=NAV−costNAV=60−4060=13,50,000×13=Rs 16,667\text{Gain share} = \frac{NAV - \text{cost}}{NAV} = \frac{60 - 40}{60} = \tfrac{1}{3},\qquad 50{,}000 \times \tfrac{1}{3} = \text{Rs } 16{,}667
    NAVthe price at which units are redeemed, 60
    costthe price at which those units were bought, 40
    What it says in wordsThe share of a withdrawal that is gain equals the share of the unit price that sits above what the unit cost.

    Why does it hold at any tax rate?

    Apply one assumed rate t to both. The SWP's taxable amount is Rs 16,667 and the deposit's is Rs 50,000, so whatever t is, the SWP's tax is one third of the deposit's. At an assumed 30%, that is Rs 5,000 against Rs 15,000 a month. In practice the two are taxed under different heads and can face different rates and holding-period rules, so confirm the current rules; the structural point is that a withdrawal is mostly capital and interest is entirely income.

    Now say the limitation honestly. The comparison is not like with like: the deposit's Rs 50,000 leaves the principal untouched, while the SWP is selling units, so the holding shrinks unless the fund grows faster than the withdrawals. And the gain share rises over time: as the NAV climbs, a larger part of every unit sold is gain, so the tax advantage narrows the longer the plan runs. A light tax bill early on is not a measure of whether the withdrawal rate is sustainable.

    Where candidates lose it

    The common slip is treating the whole Rs 50,000 as taxable income, as if the withdrawal were a dividend or interest. Candidates who say it would misstate the tax on almost every retirement plan they review.

    The opposite slip is claiming the SWP is simply better than the deposit. It is lighter on tax because it hands back capital, and that same fact means the principal is being drawn down. The interviewer wants both halves.

    What the interviewer asks next

    • After two years the NAV is 80. What share of each withdrawal is gain then?
    • How would you check whether Rs 50,000 a month is a sustainable withdrawal from this holding?
    • Which units are treated as sold first when the investor bought at several different NAVs?
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