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Case 036Strategic and tactical allocationCore

You can overweight one of two sectors by 3 points: private banks with 16% loan growth, 16% return on equity and 2.6 times book, or specialty chemicals with 22% earnings growth, 18% return on equity, 38 times earnings and 15% of downgrades over three years. Which, and what would change your mind?

WMWellington ManagementHong Kong · 2022WMWellington ManagementHong Kong · 2022

1The situation

Pankhudi Equity Fund, a diversified Indian equity fund, can move 3 percentage points of its portfolio into an overweight in one sector for the next few years. The two candidates, on the analysts' numbers:

Private banks: loans growing 16% a year, return on equity 16%, shares at 2.6 times book value, about 20% of profit paid as dividends. Specialty chemicals: consensus earnings growth of 22% a year, return on equity 18%, shares at 38 times earnings, the same payout, and consensus earnings estimates cut by a cumulative 15% over the past three years.

2Your task

Put the two sectors on a common footing, choose one for the overweight, and say what evidence would change your mind.

Quick check

What is the private banks' price to earnings ratio?

Worked solution

Try it on paper, then open one step at a time.

30-second answerThe answer to give first

Private banks, because at about 16 times earnings they are priced for their growth, while chemicals at 38 times are priced for more growth than the downgrades suggest. On simple building blocks, banks offer about 14% a year over five years against about 7% for chemicals if their multiple settles at 25 times. I would change my mind if bank credit costs start rising, or if chemical earnings estimates turn upwards while the multiple is still falling.

Step 1How do you compare a bank on book value with a chemical company on earnings?

Put them on one yardstick first; comparing 2.6 times book with 38 times earnings is comparing kilometres with litres. For a bank, earnings are book value times return on equity, so price to earnings is price to book divided by ROE: 2.6 over 0.16 is about 16.2 times. Now the gap is visible. Chemicals grow earnings faster, 22% against about 16%, and earn slightly higher returns, but cost 2.3 times as much per rupee of profit. Adjusting for growth, the banks trade at 1.02 times earnings per point of growth and the chemicals at 1.73.

Step 2What do the downgrades tell you about the chemicals' 22%?

Think of a friend who says every year that he will run a marathon in three hours and always finishes in three and a half. After a while you adjust his forecasts yourself. Estimates cut by a cumulative 15% over three years, about 5.3% a year, suggest the 22% consensus has been too high, so a fair working number is closer to 15.6%. That matters twice for a stock at 38 times: the growth is lower, and a sector that keeps missing forecasts rarely keeps its premium multiple.

Chemicals win on growth; banks win once the price is countedPrivate banksGrowth, % a year16%Return on equity16%Price to earnings16.2xGrowth-adjusted P/E1.02Earnings revisions, 3 yrsnone5-year return, blocks14.4%Specialty chemicalsGrowth, % a year22%Return on equity18%Price to earnings38.0xGrowth-adjusted P/E1.73Earnings revisions, 3 yrs-15%5-year return, blocks6.8%Lime marks the better reading on each line
Specialty chemicals lead on growth and return on equity, but private banks trade at about 16.2 times earnings against 38, carry no downgrades, and offer about 14.4% a year on simple building blocks against 6.8% for chemicals.
Step 3What return might each sector give over five years?

Use building blocks: earnings growth, plus the change in the multiple spread over five years, plus the dividend yield. For banks, assume growth of 16% and the multiple easing from 2.6 to 2.3 times book, costing 2.4% a year, plus a 1.2% yield. For chemicals, use the revision-adjusted 15.6% growth, a multiple falling from 38 to 25 times, which costs 8.0% a year, and a 0.5% yield. That gives about 14.4% a year for banks and 6.8% for chemicals; for chemicals to match banks, their multiple would have to end near 35 times, close to where it starts.

Block, % a yearPrivate banksSpecialty chemicals
Earnings growth used16.015.6
Multiple change over five years-2.4-8.0
Dividend yield1.20.5
Expected return14.46.8
On illustrative building blocks, private banks offer about 14.4% a year and specialty chemicals about 6.8%, a gap driven mostly by the chemicals' multiple falling from 38 towards 25 times.
Step 4What would change your mind?

Name one signal on each side. For banks, the risk is credit cost: a 16% return on equity that falls to 13% as bad loans rise would cut the justified price to book, and loan growth of 16% needs deposits growing as fast to fund it. Watch slippages into bad loans and the gap between loan and deposit growth. For chemicals, the signal is the revision trend turning positive while the multiple has already fallen; at 25 times with estimates rising, the case would flip. Say also that both overweights are relative bets: 3 points of the fund is a view on which sector beats the index, not a call that either will rise.

Where candidates lose it

The usual loss is picking chemicals because 22% is bigger than 16%, without asking what the market already pays for that growth. At 38 times earnings, the growth story is in the price.

The second is taking consensus at face value. Three years of downgrades tell you the forecasts have a bias, and a good answer adjusts for it rather than quoting the 22%.

What the interviewer asks next

  • What price to book is justified for a bank earning 16% on equity with a 12% cost of equity and 8% long-run growth?
  • The chemicals sector falls 25% and estimates stop falling. What do you do?
  • How would you size the overweight if the two sectors were highly correlated with the rest of the fund?

Asked at Wellington Management, Generalist, Hong Kong, 2022 (Wall Street Oasis): How would you compared the sectors you covered in previous internships and which one you think has the most prospects?
Asked at Wellington Management, Generalist, Hong Kong, 2022 (Wall Street Oasis): Compare the sectors you covered in previous internships and which has the most prospects

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Company names and figures are illustrative.

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