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Case 084Client situations and behaviourCore

A 58-year-old client has just lost her husband. His estate is Rs 7 crore across 14 accounts, a Rs 2 crore life insurance claim is pending, and she needs Rs 2.5 lakh a month. How would you approach her, and what is the 90-day plan?

VanguardScottsdale · 2025

1The situation

Lalitha Venkatram is 58. Her husband died three weeks ago. He handled all the money. His estate is about Rs 7 crore across 14 accounts: five bank accounts and deposits (Rs 1.6 crore), four mutual fund folios (Rs 2.4 crore), two demat accounts (Rs 2.2 crore), a public provident fund account (Rs 30 lakh) and two pension-linked plans (Rs 50 lakh). She is the registered nominee on 11 of them; three have no nominee. A Rs 2 crore life insurance claim is pending.

A joint savings account holds Rs 12 lakh and her own deposit Rs 8 lakh, both available to her now. The household needs Rs 2.5 lakh a month. She owns her flat. Her brother has already suggested she sell it and move near him.

2Your task

How do you run the first meeting, and what happens in the first 90 days?

Quick check

What is the first financial question to answer in the first meeting?

Worked solution

Try it on paper, then open one step at a time.

30-second answerThe answer to give first

Listen first, confirm she has cash for the coming months, and promise that no major decision needs to be made for six to twelve months. Rs 20 lakh on hand covers eight months of need. The 90 days then go to paperwork: the insurance claim, transmission of the 11 nominated accounts, and a holding ladder for the Rs 2 crore once paid. Long term, Rs 9 crore against Rs 30 lakh a year is a 3.3% draw, which is manageable.

Step 1How do you open the first meeting?

By not talking about investments. Someone who has just lost a partner is carrying grief, a pile of paperwork she has never seen and relatives with opinions. The adviser's first job is to listen, to find out what she is worried about, and to take urgency out of the room. Ask whether she would like a trusted person with her, keep the meeting short, write down what you agree and send it to her afterwards, because little of what is said in the first weeks is remembered.

Step 2What is the one number to settle in that meeting?

Months of cash. Rs 12 lakh in the joint account and Rs 8 lakh in her own deposit, Rs 20 lakh, against Rs 2.5 lakh a month, gives about 8 months of cover without touching anything in the estate. Saying that out loud tells her she is safe for now, and it disarms the pressure to sell the flat or move money quickly. If the number had been two months, the plan would start with an early part-release of the insurance claim instead.

First secure cash and time, then paperwork, then a holding portfolioNo major decisions: no sale of the house, no loans to family, no new productsDay 0Day 7Day 30Day 60Day 90ListenCash check: Rs 20 lakh on hand= 8 months of needCollectDeath certificatesInventory: 14 accountsFile Rs 2 cr claimTransmit11 accounts withher as nomineeHoldClaim money intoa 6 to 12 monthdeposit ladder3 accounts, no nominee: runs past day 90Long run: Rs 9 crore after the claim; Rs 30 lakh a year of need is a 3.3% draw
The first 90 days run from listening and a cash check, through document collection and transmission of the 11 nominated accounts, to parking the Rs 2 crore claim in a deposit ladder, all inside a six to twelve month window with no major decisions.
Step 3What happens to the paperwork, account by account?

Build an inventory before touching anything. For the 11 accounts where she is nominee, transmissionThe transfer of a deceased holder account or units to the nominee or legal heir, done by submitting documents rather than by selling and rebuying. needs the death certificate, a claim form and her own KYC; the three without a nominee need further proof of heirship, which each institution specifies and which takes longer. Transmission moves holdings into her name without selling them, so there is no forced sale and no tax event at this stage. The document lists vary by institution and must be confirmed with each.

HoldingAccountsRs croreShe is nominee
Bank savings and deposits51.64
Mutual fund folios42.44
Demat accounts22.21
Public provident fund10.31
Pension-linked plans20.51
Total147.011
The Rs 7 crore estate sits in 14 accounts; she is nominee on 11, which can be transmitted in weeks, and the 3 without a nominee need longer heirship documentation.
Step 4Where does the insurance money go, and what is the long-run picture?

Into a holding position, not a portfolio. When the Rs 2 crore claim is paid, it goes into a ladder of deposits and liquid funds maturing over six to twelve months, earning about Rs 14 lakh a year at an assumed 7%, while she decides nothing. The long-run picture is reassuring: Rs 9 crore in total against Rs 30 lakh a year of spending is a 3.3% draw. The real plan, allocation, will and her own nominations, is built after the first year, when she is ready to make choices she will stand behind.

Where candidates lose it

The usual loss is leading with products: an investment plan for the insurance money in the first meeting. It reads as selling to a grieving client, and interviewers mark it down immediately.

The second is forgetting the practical check. A candidate who is warm but never asks whether she can pay next month's bills has missed the one financial question that cannot wait.

What the interviewer asks next

  • Her brother calls you asking for details of her accounts. What do you say?
  • She wants to give Rs 50 lakh to her son for a business in month two. How do you handle it?
  • What should her own will and nominations look like at the end of the first year?

Asked at Vanguard, Wealth Management, Scottsdale, 2025 (Wall Street Oasis): How would you approach a client whose spouse has just passed away

← Case 083In a Rs 20 crore family trust portfolio, one stock has risen to 13% against a 10% cap in the investment policy. Describe the fiduciary's day-to-day steps: detect the breach, decide the trade, document the reason and report to the beneficiaries.Case 085 →A 68-year-old wants Rs 90,000 a month from Rs 1.5 crore split across bank deposits, a government savings scheme and a debt fund. Build the income plan and check whether it reaches the target.

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