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014One deposit pays 12% a year compounded monthly. Another pays 12.5% a year compounded annually. Which pays more, and by how much on Rs 1 lakh over a year?Indian wealth management
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Which ends the year ahead?
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The 12% monthly deposit pays more: an effective 12.68% against 12.50%. One per cent a month, compounded twelve times, is 1.01 to the 12th, which is 1.1268. On Rs 1 lakh that is Rs 1,12,683 after a year against Rs 1,12,500, Rs 183 more. The gap is small, but the method is the point: convert every quoted rate to an effective annual rate before comparing.
Why is 12% monthly not 12%?
Imagine a savings box where interest is dropped in every month rather than at year end. From the second month on, the interest already in the box also earns. A quoted rate with a compounding frequency is a label, not the return; the return is the effective annual rate, which rises with every extra compounding. For 12% compounded monthly, that effective annual rateThe rate that, compounded once a year, gives the same result as the quoted rate with its compounding frequency. is 12.683%.
Rs 1 lakh at 1% a month climbs in twelve steps to Rs 1,12,683, while 12.5% compounded annually jumps once to Rs 1,12,500, so the monthly deposit ends Rs 183 ahead on an effective 12.68%. How do you do 1.01 to the 12th in your head?
Use the binomial shortcut. 1.01 to the 12th is roughly 1 plus 12 times 0.01 plus 66 times 0.0001, the number of pairs of months times the interest on interest. That is 1 plus 0.12 plus 0.0066, about 1.1266, within a hair of the exact 1.1268. The 0.66 point of extra return is the interest on interest, and it is what closes most of the gap to 12.5%.
The relationship0.12/12 the monthly rate, 1% 12 the number of compounding periods in a year EAR the effective annual rate What it says in wordsCompound the periodic rate for a year and subtract one to get the rate you can compare.Give the two numbers that frame it. Compounded continuously, 12% would give 12.75%, the ceiling for a 12% quote. And a monthly deposit would need to quote only 11.84% to match 12.5% annual. The limitation for a client: tax, premature withdrawal terms and the credit of the issuer usually matter more than Rs 183.
Where candidates lose it
The trap is comparing the quoted numbers, 12% against 12.5%, and picking the annual deposit. The candidate has compared two labels written in different units.
The opposite loss is overselling the result. Rs 183 on Rs 1 lakh is a small gap; say so, and say that the method, converting to effective rates, is what the interviewer wanted.
What the interviewer asks next
- What would 12% compounded quarterly give as an effective annual rate?
- What monthly-compounded rate would exactly match 12.5% annual?
- A loan quotes 1.5% a month. What is the effective annual rate?
016A portfolio management service charges a 2% fixed fee plus 20% of returns above an 8% hurdle. In a year when the gross return is 15% on Rs 1 crore, what is the client's net return, and what share of the gross gain went in fees?Indian wealth management
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Pick the client's net return, with the performance fee charged on the return after the fixed fee.
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The client nets 12%, and fees take 20% of the gross gain. The 2% fixed fee brings 15% down to 13%. That is 5 points above the 8% hurdle, and 20% of 5 points is a 1% performance fee. Net return is 12%, Rs 12 lakh on Rs 1 crore. Fees are Rs 3 lakh of the Rs 15 lakh gross gain. The exact order of fees is set by the agreement.
Why do the two fees stack rather than sit side by side?
Think of a restaurant bill with a fixed cover charge and then a service charge worked out on what is left. Each charge is modest on its own, but together they take a real share of the meal. The fixed fee is paid in every year, good or bad, and the performance fee then takes a slice of whatever is left above the hurdle, so in a good year the two stack. Here 2 points and 1 point together take a fifth of a 15% year.
On Rs 1 crore a 15% gross year loses 2 points to the fixed fee and 1 point to the performance fee on the 5 points above the 8% hurdle, leaving the client 12%, so fees take Rs 3 lakh of the Rs 15 lakh gain. What changes if the agreement charges the performance fee on the gross return?
Then the hurdle is measured before the fixed fee. The performance fee becomes 20% of 7 points, 1.4%, the net return falls to 11.6%, and fees take 22.7% of the gain instead of 20%. The same headline terms give two answers, which is why the order of calculation, the high-water markA rule that performance fees are only paid on gains above the highest value the account has previously reached, so the client does not pay twice for recovering a loss. and the basis for the fixed fee all have to be read in the agreement.
On Rs 1 crore Fee after fixed fee Fee on gross Gross gain, Rs lakh 15.0 15.0 Fixed fee, 2% (2.0) (2.0) Performance fee, 20% above 8% (1.0) (1.4) Net gain, Rs lakh 12.0 11.6 Share of gross gain paid in fees 20.0% 22.7% Charging the performance fee after the fixed fee leaves the client Rs 12.0 lakh; charging it on the gross return leaves Rs 11.6 lakh, so the same headline terms differ by Rs 40,000 on Rs 1 crore. One more layer is worth a sentence: fees usually attract GST in India, charged on top, which widens the gap further. Confirm the current rate and treatment before quoting a client a net figure.
Where candidates lose it
The trap is taking the performance fee as 20% of the whole 15% gross return, or forgetting the fixed fee comes out first. Both give a wrong net figure with total confidence.
The quieter loss is quoting 12% without the convention. Say that you have assumed the performance fee is charged after the fixed fee, and give the other answer, 11.6%, in the same breath.
What the interviewer asks next
- What is the net return in a year when the gross return is 8%?
- At what gross return do fees take exactly a quarter of the gain?
- How does a high-water mark change the fee in the year after a loss?
018One fund in ten is truly skilled and beats its benchmark in 70% of years; the rest are unskilled and beat it in 50% of years. A fund has just beaten its benchmark three years running. What is the chance it is skilled?Wealth management
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After three straight wins, how likely is the fund to be skilled?
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About 23%. Take 1,000 funds: 100 skilled and 900 unskilled. A skilled fund wins three years running with chance 0.7 cubed, 34.3%, so 34.3 funds. An unskilled fund does it with chance 0.5 cubed, 12.5%, so 112.5 funds. Of the 146.8 funds with a streak, 34.3 are skilled: 23.4%. The streak moves the odds from 10% to 23%, but most streak funds are still unskilled.
Why is the answer not close to 70%?
Think of a medical test that is good but not perfect, used for a rare condition. Most positive results come from the many healthy people, simply because there are so many more of them. How common skill is to begin with matters as much as how well skill shows up in results. Skilled funds are one in ten, so even though they streak more often, unskilled funds produce most of the streaks by sheer numbers.
Of 1,000 funds, 34.3 skilled and 112.5 unskilled funds post a three-year winning streak, so a fund with a streak is skilled only 23.4% of the time, up from a starting 10%. How do you set it up without a formula sheet?
Use natural frequencies. Pick a round population, 1,000 funds, and count how many land in each branch; the answer is one count over the total count. That is Bayes ruleA way of updating a starting probability with new evidence, by weighing how likely the evidence is under each possible explanation. without the notation, and it is far harder to get wrong out loud. The formula version gives the same 23.4%.
The relationshipS the fund is skilled W^3 three wins in a row 0.1, 0.9 the share of skilled and unskilled funds before any results 0.7^3, 0.5^3 the chance of a three-year streak for each type What it says in wordsThe chance of skill given a streak is the skilled streaks divided by all streaks.The client version is one sentence: a three-year record is weak evidence on its own. It is also worth naming the limitation of the model: real skill is not a clean 70% and fund returns are not independent year to year, but the direction of the answer survives both.
Where candidates lose it
The trap is answering 70% or 34%, the numbers attached to skilled funds. Both describe how a skilled fund behaves, not how many streak funds are skilled, and confusing the two is the most common error in probability questions.
The other loss is fumbling the formula. Counting 1,000 funds through the tree is faster, is easier to say, and checks itself.
What the interviewer asks next
- What if the fund has won five years running?
- If one fund in four were skilled, what would three wins imply?
- How would you use this when a client wants to buy last year's top fund?
019An annuity pays 7% of the purchase price every year for life and returns nothing on death. Is the client earning 7%? What is the return if he lives for 20 years?Private banking
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For a client who lives exactly 20 years after buying, what is the internal rate of return?
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No: for a 20-year life the return is about 3.4% a year. He pays 100 and receives 7 a year for 20 years, 140 in total, of which 100 is his own capital coming back and only 40 is return. The rate that makes 20 payments of 7 worth 100 today is 3.44%. The payout rate is not a yield, because the capital is never returned.
Why is a 7% payout not a 7% return?
Imagine lending a friend Rs 1 lakh and being repaid Rs 7,000 a year until one of you dies, with nothing more after that. The Rs 7,000 is partly interest and partly your own Rs 1 lakh coming back in slices. An annuity payout rate includes the return of the buyer's own capital, because nothing is paid back at death; only the interest part is return. A bank deposit paying 7% hands back the Rs 1 lakh at the end as well; the annuity does not.
Over a 20-year life each Rs 7 payment splits into interest at 3.44% and the client's own capital coming back, so of the Rs 140 received only Rs 40 is return and Rs 100 is his own money. How does the return change with how long he lives?
Lifespan is the whole trade. If he dies after 10 years the return is about -6.0%, negative, because he gets back only 70; at 20 years it is 3.4%; at 30 years it reaches 5.7%. An annuity is insurance against living long, priced so that the insurer wins on clients who die early. That is its purpose, and the client should buy it for longevity protectionIncome that continues however long the client lives, so the risk of outliving savings passes to the insurer., not for yield.
The relationship100 the purchase price 7 the yearly payment 20 the number of years the client lives r the internal rate of return What it says in wordsThe return is the one rate that makes the stream of payments worth exactly what the client paid.Add what a private banker would. Annuity income is usually taxed as income in the year received, and payouts are fixed in rupees, so inflation erodes them. The 7% here is an illustration; real annuity rates depend on age, the option chosen and the current rate environment, and have to be taken from a current quote.
Where candidates lose it
The trap is calling the 7% a yield and comparing it with a 7% deposit. The deposit returns the capital at the end; the annuity never does, so the two numbers measure different things.
The opposite loss is dismissing the annuity as a bad return. It is insurance against a long life, and the interviewer wants to hear that the return depends on lifespan, not a verdict.
What the interviewer asks next
- What if the annuity returned the purchase price to his heirs at death? How would the payout rate change?
- At what lifespan does the return reach 5%?
- How would inflation of 5% a year change the real value of the last payment?
020A perpetual bond with a 9% coupon trades at 104 per 100 of face value. The issuer can call it at par in two years and is expected to. What yield is the client actually buying?Private banking
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If the bond is called at par in two years, what is the yield?
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About 6.8%, not 9%. The client pays 104 and, if the call is used, receives a coupon of 9 after one year and 9 plus 100 after two. The Rs 4 of premium above par is lost at the call. The yield that discounts 9 and 109 back to 104 is 6.79%. For a bond above par that is likely to be called, the yield to call is the honest figure.
Why does the call matter so much?
Think of paying extra for a flat on a lease you expect to run for ever, then learning the landlord can end it after two years and refund only the base price. The rent was fine; the premium you paid is gone. A bond bought above par loses the premium if it is called at par, so its yield must be measured to the call date, not as if the coupon ran for ever. Here 4 of premium is lost over just two years.
The client pays 104, receives 9 and then 109 at the call, losing the 4 of premium above par, so the yield to call is 6.79% against a coupon of 9% and a current yield of 8.65%. How do you estimate it in your head?
Spread the premium loss over the years to the call. Coupons of 9 a year less 4 of premium over two years is about 7 a year, on an average price of about 102, which is roughly 6.9%, close to the exact 6.79%. The shorter the time to the call, the bigger the drag per year, because the same premium is lost over fewer coupons.
The relationship104 the price paid 9 the annual coupon 109 the final coupon plus the 100 repaid at the call y the yield to call What it says in wordsThe yield to call is the rate that makes the coupons up to the call and the call price worth the price paid.Name the second risk. A perpetual bond is callable, not must-call: if rates rise or the issuer weakens, it may not be called, and the client then holds a bond with no maturity at all. Desks quote the yield to worstThe lowest yield across all the dates on which the bond could be called or mature, the conservative figure for a callable bond. for exactly this reason, and a client needs both scenarios before buying.
Where candidates lose it
The trap is quoting the 9% coupon, or the 8.65% current yield, as the return. Both ignore that the client paid 104 for something that will most likely be repaid at 100 in two years.
The second loss is treating the call as certain. Say what happens if it is not called: a perpetual with no maturity, whose price can fall a long way.
What the interviewer asks next
- What is the yield to call if the call is in one year instead of two?
- The bond is not called and trades at 90. What is its current yield?
- Why do issuers usually call a bond like this when rates fall?
022Estimate the annual revenue of a private bank's wealth branch in a mid-sized Indian city.Private banking
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Which build gives an estimate you can defend in the room?
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About Rs 7.2 crore a year. Assume 6 relationship managers, each covering 25 client families: 150 families. At Rs 6 crore of assets each, the branch manages Rs 900 crore. A blended revenue yield of 0.8% across fees, commissions and lending gives Rs 7.2 crore. A top-down check on the client count lands at 160 families, which supports the build.
Where do you start the build?
Think of estimating a local restaurant's takings: tables, covers per table, spend per head. Nobody guesses the total first. Build revenue from counts and rates you can picture, so each assumption can be challenged and fixed without redoing the whole estimate. For a wealth branch the natural chain is relationship managers, families per manager, assets per family and the revenue the bank earns on those assets.
Six relationship managers with 25 families each serve 150 families holding Rs 900 crore, and a 0.8% blended yield turns that into Rs 7.2 crore a year, while a top-down count of 160 families supports the client number. How do you check the estimate a second way?
Rebuild the weakest link from a different direction. The client count is the shakiest number, so check it top down: 8 lakh households, 1 in 1,000 with more than Rs 5 crore to invest, and a 20% share for this branch gives 160 families against 150. Every figure in that chain is an assumption too, stated as one. Then sense-check the output: Rs 1.2 crore of revenue per relationship manager has to cover that manager, the team behind him and the branch, which tells you whether the bank would keep the branch open.
Link Assumption Result Relationship managers a mid-sized city branch 6 Families per manager a private banking book 150 families Assets per family Rs 6 crore with this bank Rs 900 crore Revenue yield blended 0.8% Rs 7.2 crore Four links, each an assumption you say out loud, take the branch from 6 relationship managers to about Rs 7.2 crore of revenue a year. Give the sensitivity before you are asked. The blended yieldTotal revenue from a book divided by the assets in it, mixing fees, commissions, spreads and lending income into one rate. is the most uncertain link: at 0.6% revenue is Rs 5.4 crore, at 1% it is Rs 9 crore. A book heavy in advisory mandates and lending earns more per rupee than one parked in low-fee products, so the product mix moves the answer as much as the client count.
Where candidates lose it
The trap is announcing a total, say Rs 20 crore, and then building backwards to justify it. The interviewer can tell, because the assumptions come out oddly specific and do not survive one challenge.
The second loss is skipping the check. One top-down line on the client count and one sentence on revenue per manager turn a guess into an estimate.
What the interviewer asks next
- Which single assumption would you research first, and how?
- How would the estimate change if half the assets were in lending rather than investments?
- The bank wants to double the branch's revenue in three years. Which lever is most realistic?
024A client has pledged Rs 100 of shares against a Rs 50 loan, a 50% loan-to-value. The stock gaps down 30% overnight, and the lender sells shares to bring the loan back to 50% of the collateral. How much stock is sold?Private banking
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How much of the remaining Rs 70 of shares does the lender sell?
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Rs 30 of the remaining Rs 70. After the gap the shares are worth Rs 70 against a Rs 50 loan, a loan-to-value of 71.4%. Selling S of shares repays S of loan, so the lender needs 50 minus S to equal half of 70 minus S, which gives S = 30. The client is left with Rs 40 of shares, a Rs 20 loan and Rs 20 of equity, sold out near the low.
Why does the sale have to be so large?
Think of a bucket with a hole that you are emptying to lower the water to a mark painted halfway up its side, while the bucket itself shrinks as you pour. Every rupee of shares sold repays a rupee of loan but also removes a rupee of collateral, so the sale has to be twice the gap it closes. At a 50% target, each rupee sold lowers the required collateral by only 50 paise, which is why Rs 15 of excess loan needs Rs 30 of sales.
A 30% gap takes shares from 100 to 70 against a 50 loan, a loan-to-value of 71.4%, and the lender must sell 30 of shares and repay 30 of loan to reach 50% again, leaving 40 of shares against 20 of loan. What does the forced sale cost the client if the price recovers?
It locks the loss in. If the stock climbs back to where it started, a rise of 42.9%, his Rs 40 of shares becomes Rs 57.1, and after the Rs 20 loan his equity is Rs 37.1. Had he not been sold out, the same recovery would have put him back at Rs 50 of equity, so the forced sale turned a temporary fall into a permanent loss of about Rs 12.9. A top-up of Rs 15 of cash would have restored the ratio without selling anything.
The relationshipS shares sold, used to repay the loan 50 the loan before the sale 70 the shares after the 30% gap 0.5 the loan-to-value the lender restores What it says in wordsThe sale is the excess loan divided by one minus the target loan-to-value.Say what a private banker does with this. Lending against shares is sized for gaps, not for daily moves: a lender may sell at the open before the client can respond. The cushion before a margin callA demand from the lender to add cash or collateral, or accept a sale, when the loan grows too large relative to the value of the pledged securities. and the cash the client can raise overnight matter more than the interest rate on the loan.
Where candidates lose it
The trap is Rs 15: the loan reduction needed if fresh cash were used. It forgets that selling collateral shrinks the collateral too, and the lender who sells only Rs 15 is still above 50%.
The second loss is treating the sale as neutral because equity is Rs 20 before and after it. The damage shows only in the recovery, and the interviewer wants that point made.
What the interviewer asks next
- What gap down would take the loan-to-value to 100%?
- If the lender's target is 40% rather than 50%, how much is sold?
- How would you structure a loan against a concentrated stock to survive a 30% gap?
026A client's equity fund returned 14% last year while its benchmark index returned 12%. The fund's beta is 1.3 and the risk-free rate was 6%. Did the manager add value, and how much?Wealth management
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Before you work it: how much of the 2-point beat was the manager's skill?
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Barely: the risk-adjusted excess, or alpha, is about 0.2%. The market premium was 12 minus 6, or 6 points. A beta of 1.3 earns 1.3 times that, 7.8 points, on top of the 6% risk-free rate, so the fund should have made 13.8% just by holding more market risk. It made 14%. Of the 2-point beat, 1.8 points were paid for by extra risk and 0.2 came from the manager.
Why is beating the index not the same as adding value?
Picture two drivers who both arrive early. One drove carefully and knew a shortcut; the other simply drove 30% faster on the highway. You would not call the second one a better navigator. A fund with a beta of 1.3 is the fast driver: in a rising market it is expected to beat the index simply because it carries more of the market's risk. The client paid for that extra speed with extra drawdown risk, and would have got it from any higher-beta fund.
So the fair yardstick is not the index but what the index would have paid at 1.3 times the risk. That is the capital asset pricing modelA model that says a portfolio should earn the risk-free rate plus its beta times the market premium, the market return less the risk-free rate. expectation, and whatever sits above it is called Jensen's alpha.
The fund's 14% rebuilds as 6% risk-free, plus 7.8 points from a 1.3 beta on a 6-point market premium, plus only 0.2 points of alpha. Of the 2-point beat over the index, 1.8 points were paid for by carrying extra market risk. The relationshipR_p the fund's return, 14% R_f the risk-free rate, 6% R_m the benchmark's return, 12% \beta the fund's sensitivity to the market, 1.3 What it says in wordsAlpha is what the fund earned beyond what its level of market risk alone should have paid.What would you tell the client, and what can one year not tell you?
Tell the client the fund did roughly what a higher-risk version of the index would have done, with a sliver on top. One year of 0.2 points of alpha is indistinguishable from noise; it takes several years and a stable beta before anyone can call it skill. Also say the mirror image: in a year the index falls 10%, the same 1.3 beta implies a fall of about 6 + 1.3 x (minus 16), or minus 14.8%, before any skill at all. The client should expect to feel that.
The limitation is the beta itself. It is estimated from past returns, it moves, and a different benchmark gives a different number. Say that you are treating 1.3 as given for the puzzle.
Where candidates lose it
The fast answer is 2 points of value added, because 14 beats 12. It ignores that the fund took 30% more market risk than the index, and in a rising year extra risk is rewarded whether or not anyone is skilful.
The second loss is doing the sum wrong: multiplying the whole 12% by 1.3 to get 15.6% and concluding the manager destroyed value. Beta scales the premium over the risk-free rate, not the total return. Say 12 minus 6 first, then multiply.
What the interviewer asks next
- The same fund had a beta of 0.8. What is its alpha now?
- Next year the index falls 10%. What return would you expect from this fund before any skill?
- Why might a Sharpe ratio tell a different story from alpha?
- How many years of data would you want before calling this skill?
040A client can run a Rs 10,000 monthly SIP that rises 10% every year, or a flat Rs 15,000 monthly SIP. Both run 15 years at 12% a year, treated as 1% a month. Which ends bigger, and in which year does the step-up overtake on the monthly instalment?Mutual fund distributionIndian wealth management
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The step-up ends bigger. Where does most of its advantage come from?
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The step-up ends bigger, Rs 86.8 lakh against Rs 75.7 lakh, but it wins late and by saving more. Its instalment first beats Rs 15,000 in year 6, at Rs 16,105, and its corpus overtakes only in year 11. Over 15 years it puts in Rs 38.1 lakh against Rs 27.0 lakh; the growth on each is almost identical, about Rs 48.7 lakh.
Why does the step-up lag for so long?
Two students save for a trip: one puts in Rs 150 a week from the start, the other begins at Rs 100 and adds 10% every term. The steady saver is ahead for most of the year because her money arrived first. The step-up pays in less than the flat SIP for the first five years, and money put in early is the money that compounds longest, so its corpus trails until year 11. Its year-5 instalment is still only Rs 14,641.
The step-up instalment passes the flat Rs 15,000 in year 6 and reaches Rs 37,975 by year 15, but its corpus overtakes only in year 11. At year 15 it holds Rs 86.8 lakh against Rs 75.7 lakh, with almost identical growth of about Rs 48.7 lakh on each. Flat Rs 15,000 Step-up from Rs 10,000 Total put in Rs 27.0 lakh Rs 38.1 lakh Corpus at year 5 Rs 12.4 lakh Rs 9.8 lakh Corpus at year 10 Rs 34.9 lakh Rs 33.7 lakh Corpus at year 15 Rs 75.7 lakh Rs 86.8 lakh Growth at year 15 Rs 48.7 lakh Rs 48.7 lakh Both SIPs invested at the start of each month at 1% a month; the step-up rises 10% at the start of each year. So is the step-up the better plan?
It is a different plan, not a smarter one. The step-up ends ahead because it asks the client to save Rs 11.1 lakh more; per rupee saved, the flat SIP compounds better because its money arrives earlier. Where the step-up earns its place is fit: it matches a salary that rises each year, so the client can afford it without strain in year one. The honest comparison for a client is between what each plan asks of his budget in each year, not between two final numbers.
Limits: 1% every month is smooth, real returns are not, and the step-up puts its biggest instalments in the last years, so a bad market late in the plan hurts it more. The 10% step-up also assumes the client's income actually rises that fast.
Where candidates lose it
Most candidates say the step-up wins and credit compounding. The step-up does win, but compounding favours the flat SIP rupee for rupee; the extra corpus is almost exactly the extra saving. That is the insight the interviewer is fishing for.
The other loss is the crossover year. The instalment crosses in year {P40['cross_contrib']}, when 10,000 x 1.1 to the power 5 first tops 15,000, but the corpus takes until year {P40['cross_corpus']}. Say both, and say why they differ.
What the interviewer asks next
- What flat SIP would match the step-up's corpus at year 15?
- How does the answer change over 25 years instead of 15?
- The client's salary rises 5% a year, not 10%. Which plan fits him better, and why?
042A portfolio manager takes 20% of each year's gains as a performance fee, with no high-water mark. The portfolio returns plus 30%, minus 30%, then plus 30%. How much fee is paid on Rs 100, where does the client end, and what would a high-water mark have changed?Private banking
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Without a high-water mark, how do the total fees compare with the client's own three-year gain?
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Fees total Rs 11.21 and the client ends at Rs 107.63; a high-water mark would have cut fees to Rs 6 and left him Rs 112.84. Year 1 takes 130 to 124 after a fee of 6. Year 2 falls to 86.8. Year 3 rises to 112.84, and without a mark the manager takes 20% of that 26.04 rise, 5.21. With a mark at 124, the year-3 rise only recovers old ground, so no fee is due.
Why is the client charged twice?
A painter paid per wall painted repaints the same wall after the rain washes it off and bills you again. You have one painted wall and two invoices. Without a high-water mark, the manager is paid on every rise, including rises that only recover ground the client already paid a fee on. The client paid for the climb from 100 to 124 in year 1, lost it in year 2, and paid again for climbing from 86.8 to 112.84, most of which is the same ground.
The fund's NAV rises to 130, pays a fee of 6, falls to 86.8, then rises to 112.84 and pays a second fee of 5.21, ending at 107.63. With a high-water mark at 124 the year-3 rise earns no fee and the client keeps 112.84. Year Return NAV before fee Fee, no mark NAV after, no mark Fee, with mark 1 +30% 130.00 6.00 124.00 6.00 2 -30% 86.80 0.00 86.80 0.00 3 +30% 112.84 5.21 107.63 0.00 Total 11.21 107.63 6.00 Fees on Rs 100 at 20% of gains. With a high-water mark the year-3 NAV of 112.84 stays below the 124 mark, so no fee is due and the client ends at 112.84. What does the high-water mark fix, and what does it not?
It fixes double charging: a fee is due only on value above the highest level on which a fee was already paid. Here the mark saves the client 5.21 on Rs 100 and turns a gain of 7.63 into 12.84. It does not stop the manager being paid for a lucky year, and a mark can be reset when money is withdrawn or a new series is opened, so the terms matter. Hurdle rates and fee crystallisation periods are the other clauses worth reading.
Notice also that three years of plus 30, minus 30, plus 30 would compound to only 118.3 even with no fees, because a 30% loss needs a 42.9% gain to recover. The fees then take a large share of a small result.
Where candidates lose it
The common error is computing the fee on the three-year gain, 20% of 18.3, and missing that it is charged each year on each rise. The other is forgetting that the year-1 fee changes the base for years 2 and 3.
Walk the three years in order, state the NAV after each fee, and then run the high-water case. The sentence the interviewer wants is that without a mark the client pays twice for the same ground.
What the interviewer asks next
- What if the fee carried a 6% hurdle as well as a high-water mark?
- How does a high-water mark change the manager's incentive after a bad year?
- The client withdraws half his money after year 2. What happens to his high-water mark?
