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Case 006Fund economics and LP mathsWarm up

Meghvik Capital runs a Rs 250 crore fund on a 2% fee. Does the fee cover the team, and what would each partner earn in carry if the fund returns 2.5x gross?

1The situation

Meghvik Capital manages a Rs 250 crore early-stage fund. It charges a management fee of 2% a year on committed capital and takes 20% of the profit as carried interest. Treat the 2% as flat for this question and ignore any hurdle.

The team is two partners at Rs 1.2 crore a year each, two associates at Rs 0.5 crore each and an analyst at Rs 0.25 crore. Office, legal, audit and fund administration cost Rs 1.3 crore a year. The partners share 70% of the carry equally; the remaining 30% is kept for the associates, the analyst and future hires.

2Your task

Does the fee cover the team? And if the fund returns 2.5x its committed capital gross, how much carry does each partner receive?

Quick check

Before working it: does a 2% fee on Rs 250 crore pay for this team?

Worked solution

Try it on paper, then open one step at a time.

30-second answerThe answer to give first

The fee only just covers the team: Rs 5.00 crore in against Rs 4.95 crore out, Rs 5 lakh spare. At 2.5x gross the fund makes Rs 375 crore of profit, carry is Rs 75 crore, and each partner receives about Rs 26.2 crore. The partners are working for carry; the fee keeps the firm open and nothing more.

Step 1Does the fee pay for the people?

Think of a restaurant whose table charges exactly cover rent and wages. The owners eat only if the food is good enough to bring the profit. A management feeA yearly charge, usually a percentage of the money investors have committed, paid to the fund manager to run the fund whatever its results. is meant to be the table charge: it pays for running the fund, not for getting rich. Meghvik earns 2% of Rs 250 crore, Rs 5.00 crore a year. Its costs are Rs 2.4 crore for the partners, Rs 1.0 crore for the associates, Rs 0.25 crore for the analyst and Rs 1.3 crore for the office, Rs 4.95 crore in all.

That leaves Rs 5 lakh, about 1% of the budget. Turn it round to find the smallest fund this team can afford: Rs 4.95 crore divided by 2% is Rs 247.5 crore. Meghvik is sitting almost exactly at its break-even fund size, so the fee is not a profit centre at all. Many fee schedules also step down once the investment period ends; if Meghvik's fell to 1.5%, the same team would cost Rs 1.20 crore a year more than the fee brings in, and the partners would cut their own salaries or the team.

A year of Meghvik's budget: the fee against the team, Rs croreFee income2% of Rs 250 crore = 5.00Costs2.40Partners1.00AssociatesAnalyst1.30Office, legal= 4.95Spare: Rs 5 lakhBreak-even fund size at a 2% fee: Rs 247.5 crore. If the fee steps down to 1.5% afterthe investment period, the same team runs Rs 1.20 crore a year short.
Meghvik's 2% fee brings in Rs 5.00 crore a year against Rs 4.95 crore of salaries and office costs, leaving Rs 5 lakh, because Rs 250 crore is almost exactly the smallest fund this team can afford.
Step 2How much carry does a 2.5x fund pay each partner?

Follow the money out in order. A 2.5x gross return on Rs 250 crore is Rs 625 crore. The LPs first get their Rs 250 crore back, leaving Rs 375 crore of profit. Carried interestThe share of a fund profit paid to the manager, usually 20%, after investors have their capital back. It is the part of a VC partner pay that depends on results. is 20% of that, Rs 75 crore, and the LPs keep Rs 300 crore. The partners take 70% of the carry, Rs 52.5 crore, which is Rs 26.25 crore each.

The relationship
Carry per partner=0.70×0.20×(2.5×250−250)2=0.70×752=26.25\text{Carry per partner} = \frac{0.70 \times 0.20 \times (2.5 \times 250 - 250)}{2} = \frac{0.70 \times 75}{2} = 26.25
2.5 x 250gross proceeds, Rs 625 crore
250committed capital returned to LPs first
0.20the carry rate
0.70the partners' share of the carry, split two ways
What it says in wordsCarry is a fifth of the profit above the money LPs put in, and each partner takes half of the 70% the partners keep.
A 2.5x gross fund: who gets the Rs 625 crore, Rs croreCapital back to LPs250LP share of profit300Carry75Partner 126.25Partner 226.25Team and reserve22.5The Rs 75 crorecarry, splitEach partner: about Rs 26.25 crore of carry, roughly Rs 2.6 crore for each of ten years,against a salary of Rs 1.2 crore. The carry is the pay; the fee keeps the lights on.
Of the Rs 625 crore a 2.5x fund returns, Rs 250 crore is capital back, Rs 300 crore is the LPs' profit and Rs 75 crore is carry, of which each partner receives Rs 26.25 crore.
Step 3What makes the carry figure smaller in practice?

Two things, and an interviewer will ask about both. First, the 2.5x was applied to the whole commitment, but the fees come out of that commitment too. Over a ten-year life a flat 2% takes Rs 50 crore, so only Rs 200 crore is actually invested. If the 2.5x is earned on invested capital rather than committed capital, proceeds are Rs 500 crore, carry falls to Rs 50 crore and each partner gets Rs 17.5 crore, a third less.

2.5x earned onGross proceedsProfit over Rs 250 crCarry at 20%Per partner
Committed capital, Rs 250 crore6253757526.25
Invested capital, Rs 200 crore5002505017.50
Rs crore. The same 2.5x multiple pays each partner Rs 26.25 crore if it is earned on the full commitment and Rs 17.50 crore if it is earned only on the money left after ten years of fees.

Second, timing. The salary arrives every month; carry arrives, if at all, in years eight to twelve, after the LPs are repaid, and only if the fund actually returns more than its capital. A fund that returns 1.0x pays zero carry however hard the team worked. That is the design: LPs want the partners to be comfortable enough to stay and hungry enough to care. Close with the view that this fund is thinly staffed for its size, and that a partner here is betting most of a decade's pay on the portfolio.

Where candidates lose it

The common loss is computing carry as 20% of the whole Rs 625 crore, Rs 125 crore, instead of 20% of the profit after capital is returned. Carry is a share of gains, never of proceeds.

The second is treating the fee as income the partners take home. Once salaries and the office are paid, Meghvik's fee leaves Rs 5 lakh; the economics of the job are almost entirely in the carry.

What the interviewer asks next

  • How does an 8% preferred return with a full catch-up change the carry at 2.5x? At 1.3x?
  • The partners want to hire a third associate at Rs 0.5 crore. How large must the next fund be?
  • Why might LPs prefer a fee on invested capital after the investment period?
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