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  1. 041A company has an enterprise value of 5,000 and net cash of 500. It has 100 shares in issue and 10 options with a strike price of 40. What is the value per share using the treasury stock method?Valuation riddlesHardSell-side equity researchBuy-side equity research

    Try it first

    Where does the answer land?

    Show the worked solution

    About 53.64 per share. Equity value is 5,000 plus 500 of net cash, 5,500. If the price is P, the options add 10 shares and their 400 of exercise cash buys back 400 / P shares, so P = 5,500 / (110 - 400/P). Solving gives P = 5,900 / 110 = 53.636. Iterating from the naive 55 gets there in three rounds.

    Why can you not just divide by a share count?

    Think of splitting a restaurant bill where one late guest pays a fixed Rs 40 whatever the bill, and the rest is shared. How much the others pay depends on the bill, and the bill depends on who is sharing it. Under the treasury stock methodA way to count option dilution: assume in-the-money options are exercised and the exercise cash is used to buy back shares at the current price., how many net new shares the options create depends on the share price, and the share price depends on how many shares there are. The dilution and the answer have to be found together.

    Price sets dilution, dilution sets price: the loop settles at one numberShare price P= 5,500 / diluted sharesDiluted shares= 100 + 10 - 400 / PP sets how manyshares the 400buys back53.554.054.555.0fixed point 53.636step 055.00 naivestep 1step 1: 53.540step 2step 2: 53.643step 3step 3: 53.636step 4Each step: price to diluted shares to a new price
    Starting from the naive 55, each round of price to diluted shares to new price moves closer to 53.636, the one price at which the dilution and the value per share agree; when dilution depends on price, set up one equation and solve it.

    How do you solve it in one line instead of looping?

    Write P x (110 - 400/P) = 5,500. The P cancels in the second term, leaving 110P - 400 = 5,500, so P = 5,900 / 110 = 53.636. When the options are in the money, the consistent price is simply equity value plus exercise cash, divided by all shares including the options. The check: at 53.636, the 400 of cash buys back 7.458 shares, so 2.542 net new shares take the count to 102.542, and 5,500 over that is 53.636.

    StepPrice inDiluted sharesPrice out
    055.000102.72753.540
    153.540102.52953.643
    253.643102.54353.636
    353.636102.54253.636
    Each round overshoots and cuts the gap to the answer to about a fourteenth; a spreadsheet with iterative calculation switched on does exactly this.

    Say the limitation. The method ignores the time value of options and assumes exercise today. A model that values the options properly would subtract their value from equity instead, and the answer would come out slightly lower.

    Where candidates lose it

    Candidates usually give 55, forgetting the options, or 50, adding the new shares but forgetting the exercise cash. Both are one-step answers to a problem that loops.

    The other loss is announcing that the model is circular and stopping. Show the one-line algebra, give the number, and check it by running one round of the loop out loud.

    What the interviewer asks next

    • What if the strike were 60? Do the options dilute at all?
    • How would you treat convertible bonds in the same valuation?
    • Why do some analysts use fully diluted shares on all options, regardless of strike?
  2. 042A company books a Rs 200 crore goodwill impairment. What happens to its EPS, its cash, its net worth, and a loan covenant set on net debt to EBITDA?Three statement riddlesCoreSell-side equity researchBuy-side equity research

    Try it first

    Which of the four moves?

    Show the worked solution

    EPS and net worth fall; cash and net debt to EBITDA do not move. Assuming no tax deduction for the charge, reported profit falls by Rs 200 crore, taking EPS from Rs 5.00 to Rs 3.00 on 100 crore shares, and net worth falls by Rs 200 crore. No cash leaves, and EBITDA sits above the charge, so a covenant at 2.5x net debt to EBITDA is untouched. A covenant set on debt to equity would move.

    Why does a Rs 200 crore loss leave cash untouched?

    Imagine you paid Rs 20 lakh for a car three years ago and a valuer now says it is worth Rs 12 lakh. You are poorer on paper, but your bank balance did not change today; the money left when you bought it. A goodwill impairment admits that an acquisition was worth less than was paid, and the cash for that acquisition left the business when the deal closed. The goodwillThe part of an acquisition price above the fair value of the net assets bought, carried as an asset on the balance sheet. is written down, reported profit takes the charge and equity falls with it.

    Four gauges after a Rs 200 crore goodwill write-down: two move, two stay stillReported EPS, Rs5.00 to 3.00movesNet worth, Rs crore2,000 to 1,800movesCash, Rs crore300, unchangedstays stillNet debt / EBITDA2.5x, unchangedstays stillbeforeafter, movedsame before and afterThe loss is booked below EBITDA and no cash leaves the company
    After a Rs 200 crore write-down EPS falls from Rs 5.00 to Rs 3.00 and net worth from Rs 2,000 crore to Rs 1,800 crore, while cash stays at Rs 300 crore and net debt to EBITDA at 2.5x, because the impairment is a non-cash loss below EBITDA.

    Which covenant does move, and why does the difference matter?

    A covenant built on EBITDA is blind to the charge. A covenant built on net worth or on debt to equity is not: gross debt of Rs 1,300 crore against equity of Rs 2,000 crore is 0.65x, and after the write-down it is 0.72x. So the same accounting entry can be harmless under one loan and a breach under another. An analyst reads the covenant definitions before saying which.

    MeasureBeforeAfterMoves?
    Reported EPS, Rs5.003.00Yes
    Net worth, Rs crore2,0001,800Yes
    Cash, Rs crore300300No
    Net debt / EBITDA2.5x2.5xNo
    Gross debt / equity0.65x0.72xYes
    Figures are illustrative: net income before the charge Rs 500 crore, 100 crore shares, net debt Rs 1,000 crore, EBITDA Rs 400 crore.

    Two more things to say. Most analysts strip the charge out of adjusted EPS, which stays at Rs 5.00, because it says nothing about next year's earnings. And whether the charge saves tax depends on local rules, which usually do not allow a deduction for goodwill impairment; confirm before assuming either way. The real signal is about management: the acquisition is now expected to earn less than was paid for it.

    Where candidates lose it

    The common loss is saying cash falls because the company lost Rs 200 crore. The cash went out at the time of the acquisition; today's entry is a revaluation.

    The second is saying every covenant is safe. EBITDA covenants are, but net worth and gearing covenants take the full hit. Name which kind of covenant before you answer.

    What the interviewer asks next

    • How does the impairment change return on equity next year?
    • Why might management choose to take a large impairment in a year that is already weak?
    • Walk through the three statements if the impairment were tax deductible at 25%.
  3. 043A company whose shares trade at Rs 800 announces a 1:1 bonus issue. What happens to the share price, EPS and the P/E?EPS and share countWarm upIndian brokerage researchSell-side equity research

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    What happens to the P/E after the bonus?

    Show the worked solution

    The price falls to about Rs 400, EPS halves, and the P/E is unchanged. A 1:1 bonus gives one free share for each share held, so the share count doubles while the business, its profit and its value do not change. With EPS of, say, Rs 40, EPS becomes Rs 20 and the price Rs 400, leaving the P/E at 20x and the market value at Rs 8,000 crore.

    If shareholders get free shares, why are they not richer?

    Cut a pizza into eight slices instead of four and nobody gets more pizza. A bonus issue changes how many slices the company is cut into, not the size of the company, so each slice is worth proportionally less. A holder of 10 shares at Rs 800 had Rs 8,000; after the bonus she has 20 shares at Rs 400, still Rs 8,000. Nothing was paid and nothing was received.

    A 1:1 bonus cuts the same pie into twice as many slices of half the size800400Before: 10 crore shares at Rs 800After: 20 crore shares at Rs 400samepieBefore to afterPrice800 to 400EPS40 to 20P/E20x to 20xMarket value8,000 crNet worthunchanged
    The company is still worth Rs 8,000 crore after a 1:1 bonus, cut into 20 crore shares at Rs 400 instead of 10 crore at Rs 800, so EPS halves and the P/E stays at 20x: a bonus changes the slice count, not the pie.

    What happens in the accounts?

    The company moves an amount equal to the face value of the new shares out of reserves and into share capital. Net worth is unchanged, because money only moves between two lines inside equity. No cash moves, profit is untouched, and the dividend per share usually halves unless the board chooses to keep it, which would then be a real increase in payout.

    BeforeAfter 1:1 bonus
    Shares, crore1020
    Price, Rs800400
    EPS, Rs4020
    P/E20x20x
    Market value, Rs crore8,0008,000
    Every per-share number halves and every whole-company number stays the same.

    The analyst's housekeeping: restate past EPS, dividends per share and price charts for the bonus, otherwise the history shows a false halving. Say the limitation too. In practice the price can drift from the exact half, because a lower share price can widen the pool of buyers, but that is a market effect, not a change in value.

    Where candidates lose it

    The common slip is calling the stock cheaper after the bonus because the price halved. The P/E is the test, and it has not moved.

    The second loss is forgetting to adjust history. A model that compares this year's EPS of Rs 20 with last year's unadjusted Rs 40 shows a collapse that never happened.

    What the interviewer asks next

    • How is a bonus issue different from a stock split in the accounts?
    • Why might a board announce a bonus issue at all?
    • If the company keeps the dividend per share the same after the bonus, what has changed?
  4. 044Comparable companies give you an unlevered beta of 0.8. Your company has debt to equity of 0.5 and a 25% tax rate. What levered beta do you use for its cost of equity?Cost of capital and ratesCoreSell-side equity researchBuy-side equity research

    Try it first

    Before the formula: which direction and roughly how far?

    Show the worked solution

    A levered beta of 1.10. Relever with levered beta = unlevered beta x (1 + (1 - tax rate) x debt/equity). That is 0.8 x (1 + 0.75 x 0.5) = 0.8 x 1.375 = 1.10. The 0.8 is the risk of the business itself; the extra 0.3 is the financial risk shareholders take on because lenders are paid first.

    Why does debt raise the equity's beta?

    Think of two families with the same salary. One has a home loan EMI to pay first each month; the other has none. A 10% pay cut hurts the family with the EMI far more, because the EMI does not shrink. Lenders are paid a fixed amount first, so the same swing in the business moves the shareholders' leftover by more, and beta measures exactly that swing. The business risk is the 0.8; debt stacks financial risk on top.

    The relationship
    βL=βU [1+(1−t)DE]=0.8×(1+0.75×0.5)=1.1\beta_L = \beta_U\,\bigl[1 + (1 - t)\tfrac{D}{E}\bigr] = 0.8 \times (1 + 0.75 \times 0.5) = 1.1
    beta_Uunlevered beta, the risk of the business with no debt
    tthe tax rate, 25%
    D/Edebt to equity, 0.5
    What it says in wordsLevered beta is the business's beta scaled up by debt to equity, with the tax shield softening the debt's effect.
    Levered beta = business risk + financial risk from debt0.51.01.50.800.80D/E 0.00.80+0.301.10D/E 0.50.80+0.601.40D/E 1.0At D/E of 0.50.8 x (1 + 0.75 x 0.5)= 0.8 x 1.375= 1.10business risk, 0.80financial risk from debtTax shield softens the debt
    The business risk of 0.80 stays the same at every debt level, and debt adds financial risk on top: 0.30 at debt to equity of 0.5, for a levered beta of 1.10, and 0.60 at 1.0.

    Where do candidates go wrong with the inputs?

    Two places. Debt to equity uses market values where you can, and it is debt over equity, not debt over total capital: 0.5 debt to equity is one third debt in the capital structure. Using 0.33 by mistake gives 0.8 x (1 + 0.75 x 0.33) = 1.00. And the tax rate is the one that applies to this company's interest deduction; confirm the current rate rather than assuming it.

    Say the limitation. The formula assumes the debt itself carries no market risk and that the debt level stays constant. For a heavily indebted company, debt starts to behave like equity and the simple formula overstates the levered beta.

    Where candidates lose it

    The fast wrong answers are 0.8, treating beta as fixed, and 1.2, relevering without the tax shield. The interviewer wants the formula said out loud with the numbers in it.

    The quieter loss is mixing up debt to equity with debt to capital, which moves the answer from 1.10 to 1.00 and is hard to spot once it is buried in a model.

    What the interviewer asks next

    • Go the other way: a peer has levered beta 1.3, D/E 0.8 and a 25% tax rate. What is its unlevered beta?
    • Why unlever peer betas before averaging them?
    • With a risk-free rate of 7% and an equity risk premium of 6%, what cost of equity does a beta of 1.1 give?
  5. 045A market grows 8% in a year. A company with a 20% share of it grows its sales 12%. What is its market share at the end of the year?Growth, mix and unit economicsWarm upSell-side equity researchIndian brokerage research

    Try it first

    Pick the new share.

    Show the worked solution

    About 20.7%. Set the market at 100. The company's sales go from 20 to 22.4 and the market from 100 to 108, so its share is 22.4 over 108, or 20.74%. The gain is only 0.74 of a point, because share moves with relative growth: 1.12 divided by 1.08, about 3.7% more share, on a 20% base.

    Why does growing 4 points faster add less than 1 point of share?

    A student who scored 20 out of 100 last term and improves her marks by 12% while the class average improves by 8% has done a little better relative to the class, not a lot. Market share is a ratio, so it changes by the ratio of the two growth rates, 1.12 over 1.08, applied to the share you started with. A 3.7% relative gain on a 20% share is about 0.74 of a point.

    The market grows 8%, the company grows 12%: its slice widens a little20.0%20.7%This year: 20 of a market of 100Next year: 22.4 of a market of 108New share20% x 1.12 / 1.0820.74%Gain: 0.74 pointsQuick check:20% x (12% - 8%)= 0.8 points, a touch high
    The company's 20% slice becomes 20.74% of a market that is itself 8% larger, because a share gain is relative growth, 1.12 over 1.08, applied to the starting share.
    The relationship
    s1=s0×1+gc1+gm=20%×1.121.08=20.74%s_1 = s_0 \times \frac{1 + g_c}{1 + g_m} = 20\% \times \frac{1.12}{1.08} = 20.74\%
    s_0, s_1market share at the start and end of the year
    g_cthe company's sales growth, 12%
    g_mthe market's growth, 8%
    What it says in wordsNew share is old share times one plus company growth, divided by one plus market growth.

    How do you use this the other way round in a model?

    Analysts often forecast a company as market growth plus a share assumption. If you forecast 12% growth in an 8% market, you are assuming a share gain of about 0.74 points a year, and five years of that takes 20% to about 24.0%. Saying that out loud tests whether the forecast is believable: which competitor is giving up that share, and why? The limitation: this assumes the market figure and the company's sales are measured the same way, which is often not true when companies report by segment.

    Where candidates lose it

    The two fast wrong answers are 24%, adding growth rates to a share, and 22.4%, dividing by the old market size. Both skip the fact that the denominator grew too.

    Set the market at 100 out loud. It turns the problem into 22.4 over 108, and the interviewer hears the method before the number.

    What the interviewer asks next

    • What sales growth would the company need to reach a 22% share in one year?
    • If the company's share stays at 20% and the market grows 8%, what is its growth?
    • Why might a company gain share and still see profit fall?
  6. 046A company's EBITDA margin moves from 12% to 15%. Is that a 3% improvement or a 25% improvement?Mental mathsWarm upSell-side equity researchIndian brokerage research

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    Which sentence would you write in a results note?

    Show the worked solution

    Both, if you say it properly: the margin rose 3 percentage points, which is a 25% relative rise. The difference between two percentages is measured in percentage points, here 15 minus 12, or 300 basis points. The relative change is 3 divided by 12, which is 25%. On flat sales of Rs 1,000 crore, that is EBITDA rising from Rs 120 crore to Rs 150 crore, 25% more.

    Why are both numbers right and one of them misleading?

    If a bank's loan rate moves from 8% to 9%, nobody says the rate rose 1%; they say it rose one percentage point, even though the interest bill rose 12.5%. A percentage point is the difference between two percentages; a per cent change is that difference measured against the starting value. Saying margin improved 3% leaves the reader guessing whether the margin went to 15% or to 12.36%, which is 3% more than 12%.

    One move, two correct descriptions: 3 points of margin, a 25% rise5%10%15%12%Last year15%+3 ptsThis year3 percentage points= 300 basis points25% = 3 / 12:the rise measuredagainst the old 12On Rs 1,000 crore salesEBITDA at 12%120EBITDA at 15%150EBITDA rises+25%Say: margin up 3 points,EBITDA up 25% at flat sales
    The margin gap from 12% to 15% is 3 percentage points, or 300 basis points, and the same move is a 25% rise measured against the old 12%, which on flat sales of Rs 1,000 crore takes EBITDA from Rs 120 crore to Rs 150 crore.

    When does the 25% matter more than the 3 points?

    When you are forecasting profit. At flat sales, a margin that rises by a quarter of itself lifts EBITDA by a quarter, so the 25% is what flows into earnings and valuation. On Rs 1,000 crore of sales, EBITDA moves from Rs 120 crore to Rs 150 crore. The same 3 points on a 30% margin would be only a 10% rise in EBITDA, which is why the same points of margin matter much more for a thin-margin business.

    Starting marginUp 3 points toRelative rise
    6%9%50%
    12%15%25%
    20%23%15%
    30%33%10%
    The same 3 points is a 50% rise on a 6% margin and a 10% rise on a 30% margin.

    In the room, give the answer in one line: 3 percentage points, 300 basis points, a 25% relative improvement. Then add the one caution that shows judgement: check whether sales were flat, because a margin can rise while EBITDA falls if revenue shrinks.

    Where candidates lose it

    Candidates pick one number and defend it, which misses the point of the question. The interviewer wants to hear the vocabulary: percentage points or basis points for the difference, per cent for the relative change.

    The second loss is saying 3% in a note. It reads as a 3% relative change, and a portfolio manager who takes it that way will model the wrong EBITDA.

    What the interviewer asks next

    • A bank's net interest margin moves from 3.2% to 3.5%. Say the change two ways.
    • Margin rises from 12% to 15% while revenue falls 20%. What happens to EBITDA?
    • Why do rates desks talk in basis points rather than per cent?
  7. 047Three stocks you cover report this quarter. Each beats consensus with probability 0.6, independently of the others. What is the chance that at least two of them beat?Probability and brainteasersCoreSell-side equity researchBuy-side equity research

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    Pick the answer before you work it.

    Show the worked solution

    0.648. At least two means exactly two or all three. Exactly two can happen three ways, each with chance 0.6 x 0.6 x 0.4 = 0.144, so 0.432 together. All three beat with 0.6 cubed, 0.216. Adding them gives 0.648. The complement checks it: none beat 0.064 plus exactly one 0.288 is 0.352, and 1 minus 0.352 is 0.648.

    How do you avoid missing an outcome?

    Think of three friends each deciding whether to come to dinner. At least two coming covers four different guest lists: each of the three possible pairs, and all three. List the outcomes by how many succeed, count the ways each count can happen, and multiply by the chance of one such way. With three stocks there are only eight results, so write them down; with more, the count of ways is a binomial coefficientThe number of ways to choose k items out of n, written n choose k; here 3 choose 2 is 3..

    All eight results for three stocks, grouped by how many beat (B) or miss (M)0.216BBB0.144BBM0.144BMB0.144MBB0.096BMM0.096MBM0.096MMB0.064MMM3 beats: 0.2162 beats: 0.4321 beat: 0.2880 beats: 0.064At least two beatAdd the groupThree: 0.216Two: 3 x 0.144= 0.4320.648Not 0.6 x 0.6= 0.36
    Of the eight possible results, all three beating has chance 0.216 and each of the three ways to get exactly two beats has 0.144, so the at-least-two group adds to 0.648 rather than 0.6 x 0.6.
    The relationship
    P(X≥2)=(32)(0.6)2(0.4)+(0.6)3=0.432+0.216=0.648P(X \ge 2) = \binom{3}{2}(0.6)^2(0.4) + (0.6)^3 = 0.432 + 0.216 = 0.648
    Xthe number of the three stocks that beat
    3 choose 2the three ways to pick which two beat
    0.4the chance the remaining stock misses
    What it says in wordsAdd the chance of exactly two beats, counted three ways, to the chance of all three.

    Is independence a fair assumption for three stocks you cover?

    Usually not, and saying so is the part that sounds like an analyst. Stocks in one sector share demand, input costs and the same consensus-setting habits, so beats tend to cluster: when one beats, the others are more likely to. Clustering fattens both ends. The chance of all three beating and of none beating both rise above 0.216 and 0.064, and whether at least two beat can move either way, so the independent answer is a starting point, not a forecast.

    Where candidates lose it

    The fast wrong answer is 0.36, multiplying two 0.6s. It is the chance that two named stocks both beat, and it ignores both the choice of pair and the third stock.

    The second loss is getting exactly two, 0.432, and stopping. At least two includes all three. Use the complement as a check: it takes five seconds and catches both slips.

    What the interviewer asks next

    • What is the chance that exactly one of the three beats?
    • With ten stocks at 0.6 each, what is the expected number of beats?
    • If beats were perfectly correlated, what would the chance of at least two be?
  8. 048Estimate the yearly revenue and gross profit of a single petrol pump on a busy highway. Build it from vehicles passing per hour, the share that stop, litres per fill and the dealer's margin per litre.Market sizing and estimationCoreIndian brokerage researchConsulting style estimation

    Try it first

    Which vehicle type drives most of the pump's litres?

    Show the worked solution

    About Rs 69 crore of revenue and Rs 2.2 crore of gross profit a year, on stated assumptions. Assume 12,000 vehicles a day pass on the pump's side, about 500 an hour. About 384 stop, filling 20,232 litres a day, most of it diesel for trucks. At assumed pump prices near Rs 90 to Rs 100 a litre that is Rs 18.8 lakh a day; at an assumed dealer margin of Rs 3 a litre the pump keeps about Rs 2.2 crore a year.

    Where does the estimate start?

    Think of a roadside dhaba: its takings depend less on how many vehicles pass than on which ones stop and how much each group eats. Start from the traffic on the pump's side of the road, split it by vehicle type, and apply a stop rate and litres per fill to each, because the three types differ by a factor of forty in what they buy. Every input below is an assumption for the method; fuel prices and dealer margins change and should be checked before use.

    VehiclePassing a dayStop rateStopsLitres a fillLitres a day
    Two-wheelers3,6003%1084432
    Cars6,0003%180305,400
    Trucks2,4004%9615014,400
    Total12,00038420,232
    Assumed inputs: 12,000 vehicles a day on the pump's side, a 3% to 4% stop rate, and typical fills by vehicle type.
    The same day at the pump, counted two ways: stops and litresStops a day384 stops28%47%25%Litres a day20,232 litres2%27%71%Two-wheelers, 4 L a fillCars, 30 L a fillTrucks, 150 L a fillTrucks: 25% of stops, 71% of litres
    Trucks make 25% of the 384 daily stops but buy 71% of the 20,232 litres, so on a highway pump trucks are a minority of stops and the majority of litres.

    How do you turn litres into revenue and profit, and check the answer?

    Revenue is litres times the pump price: petrol for two-wheelers and cars at an assumed Rs 100, diesel for trucks at Rs 90, which gives Rs 18.8 lakh a day and Rs 68.6 crore a year. The dealer does not keep the pump price; it earns a commission per litre, so gross profit is litres times margin, about Rs 2.2 crore a year at Rs 3 a litre. Sanity check the stops: 384 a day is about 16 an hour, one fill every four minutes, which a pump with a few nozzles handles easily. The weakest assumption is the truck stop rate, since fleet operators choose pumps by contract and credit terms, not by chance.

    Where candidates lose it

    The common loss is averaging litres across all vehicles, say 15 litres a fill, which hides the fact that the answer is a truck-diesel story. The second is quoting revenue as profit: a pump's revenue is mostly the fuel's cost passed through, and the dealer keeps a few rupees a litre.

    State each assumption as a round number, show the split by vehicle, and finish with the per-hour sanity check.

    What the interviewer asks next

    • How would the estimate change for a pump inside a city?
    • What non-fuel income could a highway pump add, and how would you size it?
    • If a new expressway diverts half the trucks, what happens to the pump's gross profit?
  9. 049Company A trades at 3x EV/sales and 15x EV/EBITDA. Company B trades at 2x EV/sales and 12x EV/EBITDA. What EBITDA margins do those multiples imply, and which company is cheaper for the margin you get?Valuation riddlesCoreSell-side equity researchBuy-side equity research

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    What EBITDA margin does company A's pair of multiples imply?

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    A implies a 20% margin and B 16.7%; B is cheaper for the margin you get. EV/sales divided by EV/EBITDA is EBITDA over sales, so A is 3 / 15 and B is 2 / 12. A pays 1.5 times as much per rupee of sales, but its margin is only 1.2 times B's. The rest of A's premium is a higher price per rupee of EBITDA, 15x against 12x, which has to be earned by faster growth or better quality.

    How do two multiples reveal a margin?

    If a flat costs Rs 60 lakh, which is 20 years of rent, and 3 times the owner's salary, you can work out that the rent is a fifteenth of the salary without seeing either. Two multiples on the same numerator divide to give the ratio of their denominators, so EV/sales over EV/EBITDA is EBITDA over sales, the margin. The enterprise value cancels, and the market has told you what margin it is capitalising.

    For every Rs 100 of sales: what the market pays, and the EBITDA behind itCompany A: 3x sales, 15x EBITDASalesRs 100EBITDARs 20EVRs 300Margin = 3x / 15x20.0%Pays Rs 15 per Rs 1 of EBITDACompany B: 2x sales, 12x EBITDASalesRs 100EBITDARs 16.7EVRs 200Margin = 2x / 12x16.7%Pays Rs 12 per Rs 1 of EBITDAA's 1.5x premium on sales = 1.20x more margin x 1.25x more per rupee of EBITDA
    For every Rs 100 of sales the market pays Rs 300 for A's Rs 20 of EBITDA and Rs 200 for B's Rs 16.7, so the two multiples together reveal margins of 20% and 16.7% and show that A's premium is more than its extra margin.

    So which is cheaper?

    Split A's premium. A trades at 1.5 times B's sales multiple, and that decomposes exactly into 1.20 times the margin and 1.25 times the price per rupee of EBITDA. The margin explains part of the premium; the rest is the market paying 15x rather than 12x for each rupee of profit. On EBITDA, B is cheaper by a fifth. That does not make B the better stock: if A grows faster, converts more EBITDA to cash or carries less risk, the higher multiple may be deserved. The next question to ask is which of those it is.

    The relationship
    EV/SalesEV/EBITDA=EBITDASales315=20%,212=16.7%\frac{EV/\text{Sales}}{EV/\text{EBITDA}} = \frac{\text{EBITDA}}{\text{Sales}} \qquad \frac{3}{15} = 20\%, \quad \frac{2}{12} = 16.7\%
    EV/Salesenterprise value per rupee of sales
    EV/EBITDAenterprise value per rupee of EBITDA
    What it says in wordsDividing the sales multiple by the EBITDA multiple cancels the enterprise value and leaves the margin.

    Say the limitation: the implied margin is only as good as the EBITDA in the multiple. If one company's EBITDA is a forecast and the other's is last year's, or one capitalises costs the other expenses, the comparison is off before you start.

    Where candidates lose it

    The usual slip is dividing the wrong way, 15 over 3, and announcing a margin of 500%. Or calling A expensive because 3x sales is higher than 2x, without noticing that A earns more on each rupee of sales.

    Give both margins, then decompose the premium. The interviewer is checking whether you can separate paying for margin from paying for each rupee of profit.

    What the interviewer asks next

    • A third company trades at 1.5x sales and 12x EBITDA. Where does it sit?
    • If A's growth is 15% and B's is 8%, how would you compare them on growth-adjusted multiples?
    • Why might EV/sales be the more useful multiple for a loss-making company?
  10. 050Depreciation expense rises by Rs 10 crore and the tax rate is 25%. Walk the change through the income statement, the cash flow statement and the balance sheet.Three statement riddlesWarm upMillennium ManagementNew York · 2024

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    What happens to cash?

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    Net income falls Rs 7.5 crore, cash rises Rs 2.5 crore, PP&E falls Rs 10 crore and equity falls Rs 7.5 crore. Pre-tax profit drops Rs 10 crore and tax drops Rs 2.5 crore, so net income is down Rs 7.5 crore. The cash flow statement adds back the Rs 10 crore of depreciation, so cash is up Rs 2.5 crore. Assets fall Rs 7.5 crore net, matching the fall in retained earnings.

    Why does a non-cash expense raise cash?

    A shopkeeper who can deduct the wear on her delivery van from her taxable income pays less tax, even though no money went out for the wear itself. Depreciation moves no cash, but it is deductible, so it cuts the tax bill, and the tax saved is real cash: 25% of Rs 10 crore, Rs 2.5 crore. That is the one cash effect in the whole question; everything else is accounting.

    Rs 10 crore more depreciation, walked through the three statements, Rs croreIncome statementDepreciation+10.0Profit before tax-10.0Tax at 25%-2.5Net income-7.5Cash flow statementNet income-7.5Add back depreciation+10.0Operating cash flow+2.5Change in cash+2.5Balance sheetCash+2.5PP&E, net-10.0Total assets-7.5Retained earnings-7.5Net income falls 7.5, not 10: tax saved is 25% of 10.Cash rises 2.5: the depreciation itself moves no cash, the tax saving does.Balance: assets down 7.5 (cash +2.5, PP&E -10) = equity down 7.5.
    Rs 10 crore of extra depreciation cuts net income by Rs 7.5 crore, the add-back turns that into a Rs 2.5 crore rise in cash, and on the balance sheet cash up 2.5 and PP&E down 10 leave assets down 7.5, matching equity, because a non-cash expense raises cash by the tax it saves.

    How do you say it in the room in thirty seconds?

    Go statement by statement, in the order the numbers flow. Income statement: pre-tax profit down 10, tax down 2.5, net income down 7.5. Cash flow: start at minus 7.5, add back 10, cash up 2.5. Balance sheet: cash up 2.5, PP&E down 10, assets down 7.5; equity down 7.5 through retained earnings; it balances. End on the balance, because that is the check the interviewer is waiting for.

    StatementLineChange, Rs crore
    Income statementPre-tax profit-10.0
    Income statementTax-2.5
    Income statementNet income-7.5
    Cash flowOperating cash flow+2.5
    Balance sheetCash / PP&E+2.5 / -10.0
    Balance sheetRetained earnings-7.5
    Every line follows from two facts: depreciation is deductible at 25%, and it moves no cash.

    Say the assumption: the tax return uses the same depreciation as the books. If the higher charge is only in the books, cash tax does not fall, the Rs 2.5 crore goes to a deferred tax asset instead, and cash does not move at all.

    Where candidates lose it

    The two classic slips are saying cash does not change because depreciation is non-cash, and letting net income fall the full Rs 10 crore by forgetting tax. Both come from rushing the first line.

    The quieter loss is not closing the balance sheet. Candidates who say assets fall Rs 10 crore then cannot match equity. Cash up 2.5 is the piece that makes it balance.

    What the interviewer asks next

    • Now walk through a Rs 10 crore rise in inventory funded by cash.
    • What if the extra depreciation is not deductible for tax?
    • How does the change affect EBITDA and free cash flow?

    Asked at Millennium Management, Investment Research, New York, 2024 (Wall Street Oasis): Nothing as much, technical questions were super basic like $10 depreciation

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