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Case 016Retirement, withdrawals and life eventsCore

A 58-year-old client has just lost her husband. She receives Rs 1.4 crore of insurance, holds Rs 60 lakh in funds and needs Rs 70,000 a month. How do you approach the first meeting, and what do you do with the money in the first six months?

VanguardScottsdale · 2025

1The situation

Lalitha Venkatraman, 58, lost her husband three weeks ago. His term insurance will pay her Rs 1.4 crore. Together they held Rs 60 lakh in equity and hybrid funds, now passing to her as nominee. She owns her flat, has no loans she knows of, and spends about Rs 70,000 a month. She never handled the investments; her husband did.

Her son, who lives abroad, has asked you, the family's adviser, to meet her. A relative has already suggested she buy a plot of land, and a bank has called about a pension plan. She tells you she wants everything settled quickly so she can stop thinking about money.

2Your task

How do you run the first meeting, what happens to the money in the first six months, and what do you refuse to do in that time?

Quick check

What is the right thing to do with the Rs 1.4 crore in the first month?

Worked solution

Try it on paper, then open one step at a time.

30-second answerThe answer to give first

Secure first, understand second, decide last, and make nothing irreversible for six months. In the first meeting, listen, confirm she has cash for the next year and take over the paperwork. Park the Rs 1.4 crore in a liquid fund, move Rs 8.4 lakh to her bank, and leave the existing funds alone. Her spending is about 4.2% of Rs 2 crore a year, so the long-term plan can wait until she can take part in it.

Step 1What is the first meeting for?

Nobody buys a car the week after a funeral, and if a salesman turned up with a brochure you would show him the door. Yet that is what the land-selling relative and the bank are doing. The first meeting is not for investment decisions; it is for making her safe, which means listening, confirming that money for the next year is in her hands, and taking the paperwork off her. Ask what she needs this month, not what she wants from the money over twenty years. The answer to the second question will change as the grief does, and a plan built on this month's answer will be wrong.

Her wish to settle everything quickly is the thing to handle most carefully. It is a wish to stop feeling anxious, and the honest reply is that the money is already safe, so there is no deadline. A client in the first months after a bereavement is the easiest person in the market to sell something to, which is exactly why a good adviser slows things down.

The first six months: secure, then understand, then decideStartMonth 1Month 2Month 3Month 4Month 5Month 6SecureClaim paperwork, nominations, joint accountsRs 140 lakh into a liquid fund, in her nameRs 8.4 lakh, a year of spending, in the bankUnderstandList every asset, debt, policy and incomeConfirm health cover; check his loansWhat does she want the money to do?DecideLong-term plan: about 35% equity, rest debtMove equity in over 12 monthsReview the Rs 60 lakh of existing fundsMeanwhile the liquid fund earns about Rs 8.4 lakh a year at an assumed 6%,roughly her Rs 8.4 lakh of spending: nothing is urgentNot in these six months:annuities, property, a lump sum into equity, loans to relatives, surrendering or switching anything that cannot be undone
The first six months run secure, then understand, then decide: the insurance goes into a liquid fund and a year of spending into her bank in month one, the full picture is built in months two and three, and only then is a long-term allocation chosen, while annuities, property and lump-sum equity stay off the table.
Step 2Why is there no cost to waiting?

Put the numbers in front of her, slowly. She spends about Rs 8.4 lakh a year. Rs 1.4 crore in a liquid fundA debt fund holding very short-term instruments, usually under 91 days, so its value barely moves and money is available in a day. at an assumed 6% earns about Rs 8.4 lakh a year, roughly her whole spending, before touching the Rs 60 lakh of existing funds. Her spending is about 4.2% of Rs 2 crore, a rate the money can carry for decades, so six months of parking costs her nothing she will ever notice. Say the limit too: 6% is an assumption, and the liquid fund's return will drift with short-term rates; the point is that it is steady, not that it is high.

ItemRs lakhWhere it sits for now
Insurance payout140Liquid fund, in her name
Of which, a year of spending8.4Her bank account
Existing equity and hybrid funds60Untouched; transfer to her as nominee
Total200Spending of 8.4 a year is 4.2% of it
In the first month the money is only made safe and liquid: Rs 1.4 crore parked, Rs 8.4 lakh moved to her bank for the year ahead, and the existing Rs 60 lakh of funds left exactly as they are.
Step 3What do you refuse to do, and why?

Four things, each of which someone will propose. No annuity or pension plan yet: it locks the capital for life at today's rates before anyone knows what income she needs. No property: it is illiquid, needs managing, and the relative's plot may be a favour to the relative. No lump sum into equity: a 20% fall in month three would frighten a first-time investor out of markets for good. No loans or gifts to family, however deserving, until the plan exists. Every one of these may be right in a year; none of them can be undone if it is wrong, and that asymmetry is the whole argument for waiting.

Step 4What does the plan look like once she is ready?

By month four you know her real spending, her health cover, any debts of his, and whether she wants to help her son or keep it all. Then you can show the trade-off. If Rs 2 crore sat entirely in deposits and debt funds earning an assumed 6% while spending rose 6% a year with prices, it would last about 24 years; at a blended 8.5% from roughly 35% equity it lasts about 35 years, past any reasonable life expectancy. That is the case for some equity, about Rs 67 lakh of the money beyond the year of spending, moved in over twelve months so that a 30% fall costs about Rs 20 lakh of a plan she understands, not a shock to money she thought was safe. Tax on debt and equity funds differs and changes; confirm the current rules before the mix is fixed. And the existing Rs 60 lakh of equity and hybrid funds gets reviewed as part of this, not sold in month one because it was his choice rather than hers.

Where candidates lose it

The common loss is answering with an asset allocation in the first minute, as if the question were a numbers case. The interviewer is testing whether you can tell that this client needs safety and time before she needs a portfolio.

The second is the opposite: all empathy, no plan. The money still has to be made safe, the paperwork still has to move, and the adviser still has to say no to the relative and the bank, with numbers that show why waiting costs nothing.

What the interviewer asks next

  • She insists on the pension plan because a fixed income feels safe. How do you respond?
  • Her son asks you to move half the money into his name to manage. What do you say?
  • Her husband turns out to have had a Rs 30 lakh personal loan. What changes in the first month?
  • How would your approach differ if she were 38 with two school-age children?

Asked at Vanguard, Wealth Management, Scottsdale, 2025 (Wall Street Oasis): How would you approach a client whose spouse has just passed away

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