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002A company burned Rs 40 crore last year and added Rs 25 crore of net new ARR, a burn multiple of 1.6. But Rs 8 crore of that ARR is a three-year prepaid contract counted at its full value. What is the true burn multiple?SaaS-focused VCSeries A to C VC
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Which number has to change before you can recompute the multiple?
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About 2.03, not 1.6. ARR is one year of recurring revenue, so a Rs 8 crore contract spanning three years adds Rs 2.67 crore of ARR. Net new ARR falls from Rs 25 crore to Rs 19.67 crore, and Rs 40 crore of burn divided by that is 2.03. The company spends about Rs 2 of cash for every rupee of new annual revenue, not Rs 1.60.
What is the burn multiple actually measuring?
The burn multipleNet cash burned in a period divided by the net new annual recurring revenue added in that period. Lower is more efficient. asks how many rupees of cash a company spends to add one rupee of annual recurring revenue. Both halves have to be measured over the same year, so a contract that covers three years can only put one year's revenue in the denominator. A gym that sells a three-year membership for Rs 36,000 has not added Rs 36,000 of yearly revenue; it has added Rs 12,000 a year for three years.
Reported net new ARR of Rs 25 crore includes the full Rs 8 crore of a three-year contract; counting one year of it, Rs 2.67 crore, restates net new ARR to Rs 19.67 crore and lifts the burn multiple from 1.60 to 2.03. How do you restate it in your head?
Split the Rs 25 crore into the part that was fine and the part that was not. Rs 17 crore came from ordinary annual contracts. The prepaid contract is Rs 8 crore over three years, which is Rs 2.67 crore a year. Restated net new ARR is 17 plus 2.67, or Rs 19.67 crore, and 40 divided by 19.67 is 2.03. A quick check: 40 over 20 would be exactly 2, and the denominator is a little under 20, so the answer sits a little above 2.
The relationship40 net burn in the year, Rs crore 17 net new ARR from ordinary annual contracts 8/3 one year of the three-year Rs 8 crore contract What it says in wordsDivide the year's burn by the recurring revenue the year actually added, counting the long contract one year at a time.Why does the gap between 1.6 and 2.03 matter?
Many investors read a multiple under about 1.5 to 2 as efficient growth and anything much above 2 as expensive, though the cut-offs vary with stage and market. The restatement moves this company across that line, from efficient-looking to expensive. It also tells you what to ask next: how many other contracts are multi-year, and whether the sales team is paid on total contract value, which would explain why the number was booked this way.
Where candidates lose it
Candidates accept the reported ARR because the contract is real and signed. The interviewer wants to see you test whether the number matches its own definition: annual means one year, whatever the customer committed to.
The other miss is subtracting the whole Rs 8 crore and forgetting that one year of it is genuine ARR. That gives 40 over 17, about 2.35, and overcorrects.
What the interviewer asks next
- The customer paid all Rs 8 crore upfront in cash. How does that also flatter the Rs 40 crore burn figure?
- What burn multiple would the company need next year to look efficient again, if burn stays at Rs 40 crore?
- Why might a board let sales teams book total contract value as ARR?
014It costs Rs 1.2 lakh in sales and marketing to acquire a customer who pays Rs 10,000 a month, at a 75% gross margin. What is the CAC payback period?SaaS-focused VCSeries A to C VC
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Pick the payback period.
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16 months. The customer pays Rs 10,000 a month, but at a 75% gross margin only Rs 7,500 of that is left after the cost of serving them. That gross profit is what repays the Rs 1.2 lakh spent to win the customer, and 1,20,000 divided by 7,500 is 16 months. Dividing by revenue instead gives 12 months, which flatters the business by a third.
Why does payback use gross profit and not revenue?
A tea stall that spends Rs 1,200 on a signboard has not earned it back when it has sold Rs 1,200 of tea, because the milk, sugar and gas cost money too. CAC is repaid only by what the customer leaves behind after the cost of serving them, which is gross profit, not revenue. Here the cost of hosting, support and payment processing takes a quarter of each month's Rs 10,000, leaving Rs 7,500 to pay back the Rs 1.2 lakh.
The relationshipCAC sales and marketing cost to win one customer MRR monthly recurring revenue from that customer GM gross margin, the share of revenue left after the cost of serving What it says in wordsDivide what it cost to win the customer by the gross profit the customer leaves each month.Cumulative revenue of Rs 10,000 a month reaches the Rs 1.2 lakh acquisition cost at month 12, but cumulative gross profit of Rs 7,500 a month only reaches it at month 16, which is the real payback period. What does 16 months tell an investor?
It says how long the company's cash is tied up in each new customer. A company that grows fast with a 16-month payback consumes cash for well over a year on every customer it adds, so faster growth means a bigger cash need, not a smaller one. Many SaaS investors treat payback under about 12 to 18 months as healthy for mid-market customers, though the benchmark moves with customer size and churn. If this customer stays four years, it leaves Rs 3.6 lakh of gross profit, three times its acquisition cost.
Name the limitation as well. The simple payback assumes the customer never leaves. If 2% of customers churn each month, the average customer takes about 19 months to repay its CAC, because some leave before they have paid back.
Where candidates lose it
Dividing Rs 1.2 lakh by Rs 10,000 and saying 12 months is the whole trap. It ignores the cost of serving the customer, and the interviewer included the margin precisely to see whether you use it.
The quieter loss is giving 16 and stopping. Add one line on what it means for cash and one on churn, and the answer sounds like an investor rather than a calculator.
What the interviewer asks next
- With 2% monthly churn, how long does the average customer take to pay back?
- The company raises prices 10% with no change in costs. What is the new payback?
- Why might a company with a 30-month payback still be a good investment?
023A marketplace processes Rs 1,000 crore of GMV a year at a 12% take rate. Payment costs are 2% of GMV and refunds the platform absorbs are 1% of GMV. It is valued at 1x GMV. What is its contribution margin, and what multiples of revenue and of contribution is it valued at?Consumer internet VCIndia VC
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What multiple of contribution is the Rs 1,000 crore valuation?
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Contribution is Rs 90 crore, a 75% margin on revenue, and the company is valued at 8.3x revenue and 11.1x contribution. A 12% take rate on Rs 1,000 crore of GMV is Rs 120 crore of revenue. Payment costs of Rs 20 crore and refunds of Rs 10 crore leave Rs 90 crore. The 1x GMV headline is the same price as 8.3x revenue.
Why is GMV not the company's revenue?
A property broker who helps sell a Rs 1 crore flat does not earn Rs 1 crore; she earns her commission. GMVGross merchandise value: the total value of goods or services sold through a marketplace, before the platform takes its cut. is the value flowing through the platform, and only the take rate, here 12%, is the platform's revenue. On Rs 1,000 crore of GMV that is Rs 120 crore. The other Rs 880 crore belongs to sellers, so a multiple of GMV prices something the company never keeps.
What is left after the costs that scale with every order?
Payment processing costs 2% of GMV, Rs 20 crore, and refunds the platform absorbs cost 1%, Rs 10 crore. Both are charged on GMV but paid out of revenue, so a 3% cost on GMV eats a quarter of a 12% take rate. Contribution is Rs 90 crore: 75% of revenue, but only 9% of GMV. This is the money available to pay for marketing, salaries and offices, and eventually profit.
The relationshipC contribution, Rs crore 0.12 take rate on GMV 0.02, 0.01 payment costs and refunds as shares of GMV What it says in wordsSubtract the per-order costs from the take rate, apply it to GMV, then divide the valuation by each line.Of Rs 1,000 crore of GMV, only Rs 120 crore is revenue, and payment costs and refunds bring it down to Rs 90 crore of contribution, so a 1x GMV valuation is 8.3x revenue and 11.1x contribution. What would you say about the valuation?
That the headline multiple flatters the price, and the real question is what the contribution can grow into. Paying 11.1x contribution is reasonable only if contribution grows fast or the take rate can rise without losing sellers. Two marketplaces at 1x GMV can be wildly different prices: one with a 25% take rate is valued at 4x revenue, one with a 5% take rate at 20x. Always convert GMV multiples into revenue and contribution before comparing companies.
Where candidates lose it
The trap is treating 1x GMV as cheap, as if GMV were revenue. The interviewer wants to hear you convert it before you judge it.
The second slip is taking the payment and refund costs as percentages of revenue rather than of GMV, which gives Rs 116.4 crore of contribution and a 8.6x multiple. Read which base each cost is quoted on.
What the interviewer asks next
- If the take rate rises to 15% with no change in costs, what is the contribution multiple?
- How would you compare this marketplace with one valued at 0.5x GMV and a 6% take rate?
- Which costs below contribution matter most for a marketplace, and why?
034Customer acquisition cost rises as a channel saturates. The first 1,000 customers cost Rs 5,000 each, the next 1,000 Rs 8,000 and the next 1,000 Rs 14,000. Each customer brings Rs 12,000 of lifetime contribution. What are the blended and the marginal LTV to CAC across the 3,000 customers?Consumer internet VCSaaS-focused VC
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What is the LTV to CAC of the last 1,000 customers?
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Blended LTV to CAC is 1.33x; the marginal ratio on the last 1,000 customers is 0.86x. Total spend is Rs 50 lakh plus Rs 80 lakh plus Rs 1.4 crore, Rs 2.7 crore for 3,000 customers, an average of Rs 9,000, and Rs 12,000 over Rs 9,000 is 1.33. The last cohort costs Rs 14,000 for Rs 12,000 of contribution, so it destroys Rs 20 lakh.
Why can a healthy average hide a losing cohort?
Think of picking mangoes from a tree. The low branches take seconds, the middle ones need a ladder, and the top ones need a long pole and ten minutes each. The average minutes per mango still looks fine long after the top branches stopped being worth the effort. Customer acquisition works the same way: each extra customer from a saturating channel costs more than the last, so the average lags behind the cost of the customer you are adding now. The blended 1.33x looks acceptable. The marginal LTV to CACThe lifetime contribution of the next customer divided by the cost of acquiring that customer, as opposed to the average across all customers acquired so far. on the third cohort is 0.86x.
The first two cohorts cost less than the Rs 12,000 each customer brings in, but the third costs Rs 14,000, so a blended LTV to CAC of 1.33x hides a last cohort at 0.86x that loses money on every customer. The relationship12,000 the lifetime contribution of one customer, in rupees 9,000 the average acquisition cost across all 3,000 customers 14,000 the cost of each customer in the third cohort What it says in wordsThe blend divides by the average cost; the marginal ratio divides by the cost of the customers you are adding now.How much value does each cohort create or destroy?
Turn the ratios into rupees, because a ratio cannot be added up. The first cohort creates Rs 7,000 a customer, Rs 70 lakh. The second creates Rs 4,000 a customer, Rs 40 lakh. The third loses Rs 2,000 a customer, Rs 20 lakh. Stopping at 2,000 customers leaves Rs 110 lakh of value against Rs 90 lakh for all 3,000, so the third cohort makes the company smaller. At 2,000 customers the blend would also read better, 1.85x.
Why does a venture investor care about the difference?
A growth plan funded by a new round usually means spending more in the same channels. The return on that new money is set by the marginal ratio, not the blended one, so a company quoting 1.33x may be raising money to buy customers at 0.86x. Ask for acquisition cost by month or by spend band, not the lifetime average. Say the limitation as well: here every customer brings the same Rs 12,000, but a saturated channel often brings weaker customers too, so the real marginal ratio is likely worse than 0.86x.
Where candidates lose it
The common loss is answering 1.33x for both questions, or averaging the three cohort ratios, 2.4, 1.5 and 0.86, to get about 1.59. The blend must divide total contribution by total spend, and the marginal figure is the last cohort on its own.
The second loss is reporting 0.86x without saying what it means. Below 1 the cohort destroys value, Rs 20 lakh here, and the right answer says spending should stop at about 2,000 customers in this channel.
What the interviewer asks next
- At what acquisition cost does a cohort exactly break even, and what payback period would you want on top?
- If the third cohort's customers bring only Rs 9,000 each, what is the blended ratio now?
- Which data would you ask the founder for to see marginal rather than blended acquisition cost?
046A software company offers a monthly plan at price p with 4% monthly churn, or an annual plan paid upfront at a 20% discount. Which brings in more revenue per customer in the first year?SaaS-focused VCSeed and early-stage VC
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Over the first year, how does expected revenue per customer compare?
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They are almost equal: about 9.68p a year on the monthly plan against 9.6p on the annual plan. The monthly customer pays p in month one and is still paying with probability 0.96 to the k in month k plus one, so twelve months add to about 9.68p. The annual customer pays 12 x 0.8p, 9.6p, upfront. With revenue a near tie, the cash on day one and the lower churn of a committed customer decide it for annual.
How do you count revenue from a customer who might leave?
A gym that sells monthly memberships cannot count on twelve payments from every member who joins in January, because some stop coming in March. Expected revenue from a monthly customer is each month's price times the chance they are still a customer that month, added up. With 4% churn, the chance of still paying in month k plus one is 0.96 to the k: 1 in the first month, 0.96 in the second, and 0.61 by the twelfth. Twelve terms of a shrinking series add to about 9.68p, not 12p.
The relationshipp the monthly list price 0.96 the chance a customer stays from one month to the next 0.8p the discounted monthly price on the annual plan What it says in wordsA year of monthly revenue is a shrinking series of payments; the annual plan is twelve discounted payments collected at once.A monthly customer's expected payments shrink from p to 0.64p over the year and add to 9.68p, almost the same as the 9.6p an annual customer pays upfront, so the revenue difference is under 1%. If revenue is a near tie, what decides it?
Everything the revenue sum leaves out. The annual plan collects 9.6p on day one, which funds growth without new equity, while the monthly plan collects its 9.68p over twelve months. Annual customers also cannot churn mid-year, and at renewal they tend to churn less than monthly customers, so year two favours annual too. The break-even is close: at monthly churn of 4.16% the two plans give the same first-year revenue, so at any churn above that the annual plan wins on revenue as well.
What could make the comparison misleading?
The sum assumes the same customer would choose either plan. In practice the customers who pick annual plans are already the more committed ones, so their lower churn is partly selection, not a result of the plan. A founder who shows that annual customers churn less is showing a correlation; the useful question is what happens to churn when the company pushes hesitant customers onto annual terms. The other limit is the discount itself: at 20% it is roughly break-even, but a deeper discount gives revenue away for cash that may be cheaper to raise elsewhere.
Where candidates lose it
The common loss is comparing 12p with 9.6p and declaring the monthly plan 25% better, as if no one churned. The question gave you the churn rate so that you would weight each month's payment by the chance the customer is still there.
The second loss is getting the near tie and stopping. The interviewer wants the tie-breakers: cash upfront, no mid-year churn, and the selection effect that flatters annual customers.
What the interviewer asks next
- At what discount would the annual plan bring in exactly the same first-year revenue at 4% churn?
- How would you compare the two plans over three years rather than one?
- Why might a company report annual contracts as better retention when it is partly selection?
057A software company grows revenue 70% a year with a free cash flow margin of minus 45%. What is its Rule of 40 score, and what margin would it need to reach 40 if growth falls to 50%?SaaS-focused VCGrowth equity
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If growth falls to 50%, what free cash flow margin reaches 40?
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A score of 25 today, and a margin of minus 10% to reach 40 at 50% growth. The Rule of 40 adds revenue growth and free cash flow margin: 70 plus minus 45 is 25. If growth slows to 50 and the burn stays at minus 45, the score falls to 5. To get back to 40 the margin must rise to minus 10, a 35 point improvement in a year when growth is also slowing.
What does adding growth to margin actually measure?
A cricket team can win on runs scored or on runs saved; a selector looks at the margin of victory, not either number alone. The Rule of 40A rough test for software companies: revenue growth % plus free cash flow margin % should reach at least 40. treats growth and cash generation as substitutes, so a company may burn cash only to the extent that its growth pays for the burn. Today this company grows 70 and burns 45, for a score of 25: it is spending more than its growth justifies. A company growing 20 with a 20% margin also scores 40 and passes, which is the point: the test does not care which mix you choose.
Growth of 70 less a burn of 45 scores 25; if growth slows to 50 with the burn unchanged the score sinks to 5, and only cutting the margin to minus 10 lifts it back to exactly 40. The relationshipg revenue growth, % a year m free cash flow margin, % of revenue What it says in wordsSubtract the growth you have from 40 and what remains is the worst margin you can run.Why is the slowdown the dangerous part of this question?
Growth rarely falls while the cost base shrinks on its own. When growth drops 20 points with the burn unchanged, the score falls from 25 to 5, and the company has to find 35 points of margin to make up for it. Those points come from cutting sales hiring and marketing, which is often what was producing the growth, so the cut can slow growth further. Say this in the room: the score is easy to compute, the hard part is whether the company can move margin that far without breaking the growth engine.
State the limits too. The rule is a rule of thumb from listed software companies; applied to an early company growing 200% it says little, because small numbers make growth rates swing. Which margin you use matters as well, free cash flow or EBITDA, and companies quote whichever flatters them, so ask which one is in the deck.
Where candidates lose it
The common error is answering plus 10%, as if the company must turn profitable. The margin is negative and can stay negative: 50 plus minus 10 is 40. Getting the sign wrong tells the interviewer you computed without looking at the setup.
The second loss is stopping at the number. The real point is that a 35 point margin swing in a slowing year is a large ask; say whether it looks achievable and what it would cost in growth.
What the interviewer asks next
- Which margin would you use, free cash flow or EBITDA, and why does it matter here?
- Is the Rule of 40 useful for a company growing 200% from a small base?
- What spending would you cut first to move the margin from minus 45 to minus 10?
069Company A has 130% net revenue retention and each year adds new-customer ARR equal to 20% of its opening ARR. Company B has 90% net revenue retention and adds new-customer ARR equal to 60% of opening ARR. Both start at Rs 100 crore of ARR. What is each company's ARR after three years, and what happens if both stop winning new customers?SaaS-focused VCSeries A to C VC
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After three years, which company has more ARR?
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Both reach Rs 337.5 crore, but only A keeps growing when new sales stop. Each year A's ARR becomes 130% from existing customers plus 20% from new ones, and B's becomes 90% plus 60%: both 1.5x. Three years of 1.5x takes Rs 100 crore to Rs 337.5 crore. Stop new sales and A still grows 30% a year, to about Rs 741 crore in three more years, while B shrinks 10% a year, to about Rs 246 crore.
How can a company losing revenue from its existing customers grow as fast as one expanding them?
Two water tanks can both rise by 50 litres an hour: one has a strong tap and a small leak, the other a small tap and no leak at all, plus a booster on the old water. ARR growth is net retention plus new-customer ARR, so the same headline growth can come from customers who spend more each year or from a sales team refilling a leaking base. A gets 30 points from existing customers and 20 from new ones; B loses 10 points from existing customers and replaces them with 60 points of new sales. Both add 50%.
Both companies grow from Rs 100 crore to Rs 337.5 crore, but A's bars rise above last year's level before any new logo is added while B's existing base falls below it every year, so if new sales stop A grows to Rs 741 crore and B shrinks to Rs 246 crore. The relationshipNRR net revenue retention: this year's ARR from last year's customers over last year's ARR n new-customer ARR as a share of opening ARR What it says in wordsEach year's growth is what existing customers add or lose plus what new customers bring; the two companies reach the same total by opposite routes.Why would an investor pay more for A at the same ARR?
Because A's growth does not depend on the sales team hitting target every quarter. High net retention is growth the company has already earned; new-logo growth must be bought again every year, usually at a high sales and marketing cost. B has to replace 10% of its base before it grows at all, and as B gets bigger that hole gets bigger in rupees: Rs 10 crore in year one, Rs 22.5 crore in year three. If its market saturates or a recession slows buying, B shrinks; A keeps compounding from the customers it already has.
State the assumptions. The model applies the same retention to new customers from their first year, which flatters B if new customers churn faster than old ones, as they often do. It also treats retention as constant; very high NRR tends to fall as customers reach full deployment. A real diligence would read retention by customer cohort, not a single blended number.
Where candidates lose it
The common slip is to declare A larger after three years because 130% sounds better than 90%. The arithmetic says they are equal; the interviewer built the numbers to tie so you must explain why A is still the better business.
The second loss is computing the tie and stopping. The point is the second half: name the 30% growth A keeps and the 10% shrinkage B suffers when new sales stop, with the rupee figures.
What the interviewer asks next
- What new-logo rate would B need to match A if its NRR fell to 85%?
- Why might new customers churn faster than old ones, and what does that do to B?
- How would you check whether A's 130% NRR is sustainable?
078A customer pays Rs 10,000 a month at an 80% gross margin, churns at 2% a month, and costs Rs 1.2 lakh to acquire. What are lifetime value and LTV to CAC, first undiscounted and then discounting at 2% a month?SaaS-focused VCSeries A to C VC
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Before working it: what does discounting at 2% a month do to the LTV here?
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Undiscounted, LTV is Rs 4 lakh and LTV to CAC is 3.3; discounted at 2% a month, LTV is Rs 2 lakh and the ratio is 1.7. Gross profit is Rs 8,000 a month and 2% churn means an average life of 50 months, so 8,000 x 50 is Rs 4 lakh. Discounting adds the 2% rate to the 2% churn, so LTV becomes 8,000 over 0.04, which is Rs 2 lakh.
Why is the average customer life one over the churn rate?
A gym that loses 2 of every 100 members each month, month after month, keeps the average member for 50 months: some leave in the first month, some stay ten years, and the steady 2% leak averages out to one over 0.02. With a constant monthly churn c, the expected customer life is 1 / c months, and lifetime value is the monthly gross profit times that life. Use gross profit, not revenue: Rs 10,000 at 80% margin is Rs 8,000 a month, and 8,000 x 50 is Rs 4 lakh, against a Rs 1.2 lakh acquisition cost, a ratio of 3.3.
Monthly gross profit per customer starts at Rs 8,000 and decays by 2% a month, an area of Rs 4.0 lakh; discounting each month at 2% as well makes the stream decay twice as fast, halving the area to Rs 2.0 lakh and taking LTV to CAC from 3.3 to 1.7. What does discounting do to a stream that already decays?
A rupee of gross profit in month 40 is worth about 0.45 today at 2% a month. When churn and the discount rate are both monthly rates, discounted LTV is monthly gross profit divided by churn plus the discount rate, because each month the stream shrinks by survival and by time together. Here that is 8,000 / (0.02 + 0.02), exactly Rs 2 lakh if each month's profit arrives at the month end.
The relationshipm monthly gross profit per customer, Rs 8,000 c monthly churn, 2% r monthly discount rate, 2% What it says in wordsDivide monthly gross profit by the total rate at which it leaks away, through customers leaving and through time.Is 2% a month a fair rate? It compounds to about 27% a year, a venture-style hurdle rather than a bank rate, so the halving here is at the harsh end. The point survives a gentler rate: a ratio that looks comfortable at 3.3 can sit much closer to 1 once time is priced, and the 15-month payback on gross profit is often the more honest single number to quote alongside it.
Where candidates lose it
The first loss is using revenue: Rs 10,000 x 50 gives Rs 5 lakh and a ratio of 4.2, which flatters the business by a quarter. A customer's value to the company is the gross profit they leave behind, not the invoice.
The second is saying churn already handles time. Churn counts customers who leave; discounting prices the wait for the ones who stay. Leave either out and the ratio looks healthier than the cash.
What the interviewer asks next
- What monthly churn gives an undiscounted LTV to CAC of exactly 3?
- Price rises 10% a year for customers who stay. How does that change the formula?
- Why might a seed investor care more about payback months than LTV to CAC?
090A subscription business loses 3% of its customers every month. What is its annual churn? And what monthly churn would give an annual churn of 10%?SaaS-focused VCConsumer internet VC
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Answer quickly: 3% monthly churn is how much a year?
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About 30.6% a year, not 36%; and 10% a year needs monthly churn of about 0.87%. Each month keeps 97% of the customers still there, so a year keeps 0.97 to the power 12, which is 69.4%. Going the other way, 90% retention a year means a monthly retention of 0.9 to the power one twelfth, about 99.13%, so monthly churn of 0.87%. This counts one starting group of customers and ignores new sign-ups.
Why is it not simply twelve times 3%?
A water tank that loses 3% of what is in it every hour loses less each hour, because there is less water to lose. Monthly churn is a share of the customers still there, so it compounds on a shrinking base: the yearly survival rate is the monthly survival rate raised to the twelfth power. After six months 0.97 to the sixth leaves 83.3%, and after twelve 69.4%. Twelve times 3% would be right only if each month lost 3% of the original group, which nobody measures.
Out of 100 customers, 3% monthly churn leaves 69.4 after a year, an annual churn of 30.6%, above the 64 a straight-line reading gives, while 0.87% monthly churn leaves 90, which is what a 10% annual churn means. The relationshipc_mo monthly churn, a share of the customers present at the start of the month c_yr annual churn of the starting group What it says in wordsConvert churn by compounding the survival rate, never by multiplying or dividing the churn rate.How do you get the monthly rate for 10% a year without a calculator?
Dividing 10% by 12 gives 0.83%, and it is close because small rates compound gently. The exact figure is slightly higher, 0.87%, because the monthly losses come out of a shrinking base and so each month must lose a touch more to reach 10% in total. Say the division as a first estimate, then the correction. For large rates the gap grows: 3% a month gives 30.6% a year, against 36% by multiplication.
Why does an investor care which convention a company used?
Because companies quote whichever looks better. A business that reports 3% monthly churn and 30.6% annual churn is internally consistent; one that reports 3% monthly and 25% annual is either measuring different customers or counting new sign-ups against losses. Ask what base the churn is measured on and whether it counts logos or revenue, since revenue churn can be much lower when the customers who leave are the small ones.
Where candidates lose it
Saying 36% is the whole trap. It treats churn as a fixed number of customers lost each month, when it is a share of a shrinking base. The overstatement is more than five points here and grows with the rate.
The reverse slip is dividing 10% by 12 and stating 0.83% as exact. It is a fine first estimate, but say that the true figure is a little higher and why.
What the interviewer asks next
- What annual churn does 5% a month give?
- A company reports 2% monthly logo churn and 0.5% monthly revenue churn. What could explain the gap?
- How long does a customer stay on average at 3% monthly churn?
100A software company's quarterly revenue rose from Rs 25 crore to Rs 30 crore. Its sales and marketing spend in the previous quarter was Rs 16 crore. What is its magic number, and what does it become if Rs 2 crore of the increase was one-off implementation services?SaaS-focused VCSeries A to C VC
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With the one-off services taken out, what is the magic number?
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1.25 on the headline numbers, and 0.75 once the one-off services are removed. The magic number is the quarter's revenue increase, annualised, divided by the previous quarter's sales and marketing spend. Headline: Rs 5 crore x 4 = Rs 20 crore over Rs 16 crore is 1.25. But only Rs 3 crore will recur; Rs 12 crore over Rs 16 crore is 0.75. Two crore of services flattered the efficiency by two thirds.
What is the magic number measuring?
A coaching centre that spends Rs 1.6 lakh on advertising one month and signs students paying an extra Rs 50,000 a month in fees has bought Rs 6 lakh a year of fees for Rs 1.6 lakh. The magic number is the annualised increase in recurring revenue divided by the sales and marketing spend that produced it, usually the previous quarter's. It is a quick read on how efficiently a company turns sales spend into new revenue. Annualise because the spend buys a full year of revenue from each new customer, not just one quarter.
Quarterly revenue rose by Rs 5 crore, of which Rs 3 crore recurs and Rs 2 crore was one-off services, so against Rs 16 crore of prior-quarter sales and marketing the magic number is 1.25 on the headline but 0.75 on recurring revenue alone. The relationshipR_t recurring revenue in the quarter, Rs crore S_{t-1} sales and marketing spend in the previous quarter 4 annualises a quarterly increase What it says in wordsAnnualise the new recurring revenue and divide by the sales spend that bought it.Why does the one-off revenue matter so much?
Because the measure is built on a small difference. A Rs 2 crore swing in a Rs 5 crore increase is 40% of the numerator, so a one-off item moves the magic number far more than it moves revenue. Read as recurring revenue, a magic number of 1 means a year of the new revenue repays the quarter's sales spend; 1.25 suggests about 9.6 months, but the true 0.75 means about 16 months, and that is before the cost of serving the customers. Some investors multiply by gross margin for that reason: at a 75% margin the recurring figure becomes 0.56.
Ask three things before trusting the number: is the revenue recurring, is the spend fully counted, including sales salaries and commissions, and is one quarter representative. A single strong quarter can follow a deal that slipped from the quarter before, so investors look at a rolling average across several quarters.
Where candidates lose it
The first slip is forgetting to annualise: 5 over 16 gives 0.31 and makes a healthy sales engine look broken. The second is counting services revenue, which inflates the numerator with money that will not recur next quarter.
The interviewer included the Rs 2 crore precisely to see whether you ask what kind of revenue moved. Give both numbers, then say which one you would use and why.
What the interviewer asks next
- If sales and marketing spend rises to Rs 20 crore and the recurring increase stays Rs 3 crore, what is the magic number?
- How would you adjust the magic number for gross margin, and why?
- Why might a company's magic number fall as it grows, even with a good sales team?
