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021A stock with 20% annual volatility and no drift starts at Rs 100. Roughly what is the chance it ends the year more than 10% higher, and what is the chance it touches Rs 110 at some point during the year?Quant and systematic fundsProp and quant trading firms
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How does the chance of touching 110 compare with the chance of finishing above it?
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About 31% to finish above Rs 110, and about 62% to touch it during the year. A 10% move is half of one year's 20% standard deviation, and a normal variable ends more than half a standard deviation up 30.9% of the time. By the reflection principle, every path that touches 110 and ends below has a mirror twin that ends above, so touching is twice as likely as finishing above: 61.7%.
Why is finishing above 110 about a one in three chance?
Scale the move by the volatility. Over one year the price spreads out with a standard deviation of about Rs 20, so Rs 110 is half a standard deviation above the start, and a normal variable finishes more than half a standard deviation up 30.9% of the time. Treating the price as an arithmetic random walk is close enough for a 10% move; a lognormal model, in which prices cannot go negative, gives a slightly lower figure, about 28%. Say you are approximating, and say which way the error runs.
A path that touches 110 and ends below it has a mirror twin, reflected in the barrier after the first touch, that ends above it, so the chance of touching 110 during the year, 61.7%, is twice the chance of finishing above it, 30.9%. Why is touching twice as likely as finishing above?
Think of a walker on a foggy path who is equally likely to step forward or back. Once she reaches a marker post, her remaining steps are a fair coin again: from the post she is as likely to end past it as short of it. So for every path that touches 110 and ends below, reflecting the part after the touch gives an equally likely path that ends above; touching paths split evenly between the two. Every path that ends above must have touched on the way, so the chance of touching is twice the chance of ending above.
The relationshipb the barrier, Rs 110 S_T the price at the end of the year 0.5 the barrier's distance in standard deviations: 10 / 20 What it says in wordsFor a driftless continuous walk, the chance of ever reaching a level is double the chance of finishing beyond it.Where does the factor of two matter on a desk?
Anything that triggers on a touch rather than on the finish. A stop-loss set 10% away is hit about twice as often as the price ends beyond it, and an option that pays on a touch is worth roughly twice one that pays only if the price finishes past the same level. The limitation: the factor of two holds for a driftless, continuously watched walk. Drift, jumps and checking the price only at the daily close all move it, and a checked-daily barrier is touched a little less often than a continuous one.
Where candidates lose it
The common error is answering the touch question with the finishing probability, 31%, as though the path does not matter. A price can visit 110 in March and be back at 100 by December, and the question asked about the visit.
The second is forgetting to scale by volatility. Ten per cent sounds small, but against 20% a year it is half a standard deviation, not a rare event. Say the scaling first, then the number.
What the interviewer asks next
- What is the chance the stock touches Rs 90 during the year?
- Roughly what is the chance it touches both 110 and 90?
- How does a positive drift change the ratio between touching and finishing above?
022Two independent, unbiased forecasts of next quarter's GDP growth have error standard deviations of 2% and 3%. How should you combine them, and how accurate is the blend?Quant and systematic funds
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What weight should the 2% forecast get?
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Weight them 9/13 and 4/13, about 69% and 31%, and the blend's error falls to about 1.66%. For independent unbiased forecasts the best weights are proportional to one over each error variance: 1/4 for the 2% forecast and 1/9 for the 3% one. The blended error variance is 1 over (1/4 + 1/9), which is 36/13, so its standard deviation is 1.66%, better than either forecast alone.
Why does blending two forecasts beat the better one?
Ask two people to guess the weight of a pumpkin at a village fair. One is usually closer, but their mistakes are unrelated, so averaging tends to cancel part of each. Independent errors partly cancel when you average, so even a weaker forecast adds information, provided it gets a smaller weight. Throwing the 3% forecast away leaves you at 2%; blending it in well gets you to 1.66%.
Blending with inverse-variance weights of 9/13 and 4/13 gives an error of 1.66%, lower than the better forecast's 2.00%, while equal weights give 1.80% and weights of 3/5 and 2/5 give 1.70%. The relationship\sigma_A, \sigma_B the two forecasts' error standard deviations, 2% and 3% w_A the weight on the sharper forecast What it says in wordsEach forecast is weighted by its precision, one over its variance, and the blend's precision is the sum of the two.Why inverse variance and not inverse error?
The blend's error variance is w squared times 4 plus (1 minus w) squared times 9. Setting its slope to zero gives w = 9/(4 + 9), so the weights follow one over the variance, which penalises the noisier forecast harder than one over the standard deviation would. Check the alternatives: equal weights give an error of 1.80%, weights of 3/5 and 2/5 give 1.70%, and the inverse-variance weights give the minimum, 1.66%.
What would you check before trusting the blend?
Two assumptions carry the answer. The forecasts must be unbiased and their errors independent; if both forecasters lean on the same survey, their errors are correlated and the gain from blending shrinks. With an error correlation of 0.5, the best blend gives the sharper forecast 6/7 of the weight and improves the error only from 2.00% to 1.96%. Ask where each forecast comes from before you average them.
Where candidates lose it
Candidates either average equally, which overweights the noisier forecast, or keep only the better one, which throws information away. Both miss that the right weights come from the variances.
The subtler slip is weighting by one over the standard deviation, 3/5 and 2/5. It is close but not optimal; state the inverse-variance rule and show that the blended error beats 2%.
What the interviewer asks next
- What if the two forecast errors have a correlation of 0.5?
- How would you estimate each forecaster's error variance in practice?
- One forecast is biased upwards by 0.5%. What do you do?
023A stock trades at 40 times forward earnings, pays out half its earnings as dividends, and investors want a 12% return. What long-run growth rate is the price implying?Long-short equity fundsGlobal macro funds
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What growth does the price imply?
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About 10.75% a year, for ever. In a constant-growth model the forward P/E equals the payout ratio divided by (required return minus growth). With a P/E of 40 and a payout of 0.5, r minus g must be 0.5/40 = 1.25%, so g = 12% - 1.25% = 10.75%. Retaining half its earnings, the company would need a return on equity of 21.5% for ever to fund that growth.
How does a P/E hide a growth assumption?
A flat that rents for Rs 30,000 a month and sells for Rs 1.2 crore is priced at 400 months of rent; a buyer paying that is quietly assuming the rent will grow. A price multiple is a compressed forecast: fix the return investors want and the share of earnings paid out, and the multiple pins down the growth the price needs. The constant-growth model, price equals next year's dividend over (r minus g), divided through by earnings, gives P/E = payout/(r - g).
Rearranging P/E = payout/(r - g) with a P/E of 40, a 50% payout and a 12% required return leaves a dividend yield of 1.25% and implied growth of 10.75% a year for ever, which needs a return on equity of 21.5%. The relationshipE_1 next year's earnings, so the P/E is forward payout the share of earnings paid as dividends, 0.5 r the return investors require, 12% g the constant growth rate the price implies What it says in wordsThe required return is the dividend yield plus growth, so growth is whatever is left after the yield.Is 10.75% for ever plausible?
Test it against the business. Growth funded by retained earnings is return on equity times the share retained, so 10.75% growth with half the earnings kept needs a return on equity of 21.5%, held for ever. Few businesses hold returns like that for decades, and no company can outgrow the economy it sells into indefinitely, so compare the figure with the nominal growth you expect for that economy and say it as your assumption. The price is not wrong by arithmetic; it is demanding by assumption.
How sensitive is the answer?
Very. Because r - g is only 1.25%, every point on the required return moves the implied growth by a full point: at 11% the price implies 9.75%, at 13% it implies 11.75%. Using trailing rather than forward earnings shifts it too: 40 = 0.5(1 + g)/(0.12 - g) gives 10.62%. A high multiple rests on a thin gap between two large numbers, so small changes in either swing the value.
Where candidates lose it
Candidates treat the P/E as if it were price over dividend and forget the payout, which gives r - g = 2.5% and growth of 9.5%. The payout ratio is what turns earnings into the dividends the model actually discounts.
The other miss is stopping at 10.75% without judging it. The question asks what the price implies; the strong answer adds the return on equity it needs and whether that is believable.
What the interviewer asks next
- What P/E would 6% growth for ever justify at the same payout and required return?
- How does a rise in the required return to 13% change the implied growth?
- Why is a constant-growth model a poor fit for a young, fast-growing company?
024Five rational pirates, ranked A to E by seniority, must split 100 gold coins. The most senior proposes a split and all vote; it passes if at least half vote in favour, the proposer included. Otherwise the proposer is thrown overboard and the next most senior proposes. Each pirate wants first to survive, then to maximise coins, and votes against when indifferent. What does A propose?Prop and quant trading firmsLong-short equity funds
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What does A propose?
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A proposes 98 for himself, 0 for B, 1 for C, 0 for D and 1 for E. Work backwards. With two pirates, D's own vote is half, so he keeps all 100. With three, C buys E with 1 coin. With four, B buys D with 1 coin. With five, A needs two votes beyond his own and buys the two pirates who get nothing in the four-pirate split, C and E, for one coin each.
Why start from the end?
Planning a train journey, you work back from when you must arrive, not forward from when you wake up. Each pirate votes by comparing the offer with what he would get if the proposal failed, so you can only price a vote once you know the next round's outcome, which means solving the smallest game first and working upwards. That method, backward induction, is the whole puzzle.
Solving from two pirates upwards gives splits of 100, 0 for two; 99, 0, 1 for three; 99, 0, 1, 0 for four; and 98, 0, 1, 0, 1 for five, because each proposer buys the pirates left with nothing in the next smaller game. How does each round play out?
Two pirates, D and E: D proposes 100 for himself, and his own vote is half, so it passes. Three pirates: C needs one more vote and buys E, who gets nothing in the two-pirate game, for 1 coin: 99, 0, 1. Four pirates: B needs one more vote and buys D, who gets nothing in the three-pirate game: 99, 0, 1, 0. Five pirates: A needs two more votes and buys C and E, both empty-handed in the four-pirate game: 98, 0, 1, 0, 1.
The relationshipn the number of pirates still aboard fallback coins what the voter gets if this proposal fails What it says in wordsA proposer needs half the votes and buys each one for a coin more than that pirate's next-round payoff.What is the interviewer really testing?
Whether you reason about the alternative each party faces rather than about fairness. A vote costs exactly one coin more than what the voter gets if the deal fails, so the cheapest supporters are the ones with the worst fallback. The same logic runs through any negotiation: a creditor backs a restructuring plan when it beats their recovery in liquidation, and support is cheapest from those whose alternative is worst. State the assumptions: perfect rationality, and a pirate who is indifferent votes against, which is why one coin, not zero, is needed.
Where candidates lose it
Candidates reach for a fair split, or reason forwards about who might be angry, and drown. Without the backward chain there is no way to know what any vote costs.
The second slip is offering coins to the wrong pirates: to B, or to D, who already does well in the four-pirate game. Buy the cheapest votes, from the pirates with nothing to lose, and say why.
What the interviewer asks next
- What happens with six pirates?
- What changes if a proposal needs a strict majority to pass?
- What if pirates vote yes when an offer merely equals their fallback?
025Four observations, 3.1, 7.4, 5.2 and 9.0, come from a uniform distribution on 0 to theta. What is the maximum likelihood estimate of theta, is it biased, and how would you correct it?AQR Capital ManagementTown of Greenwich · 2022
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Which statement is right?
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The MLE is 9.0, the largest observation; it is biased low, and the unbiased correction is 5/4 x 9.0 = 11.25. The likelihood is 1 over theta to the fourth for any theta of at least 9.0 and zero below it, so it peaks at the sample maximum. But the maximum of n draws averages n/(n + 1) of theta, here 4/5, so scaling by (n + 1)/n removes the bias.
Why is the MLE the largest observation?
A friend draws four raffle tickets numbered from 1 up to some unknown top number, and the highest you see is 90. The top number is at least 90; guessing higher only spreads your belief over tickets nobody drew. The likelihood, 1 over theta to the n, is zero for any theta below the largest observation and falls as theta rises above it, so it is maximised exactly at the sample maximum, 9.0. This is a case where you do not differentiate: the maximum sits on a boundary, not where a slope is zero.
Four uniform draws on 0 to theta cut it into five gaps of equal expected size, so the largest draw averages four fifths of theta; the MLE of 9.0 therefore sits below theta, and scaling by 5/4 gives the unbiased 11.25, against 12.35 from doubling the sample mean. The relationshipL(\theta) the likelihood of the four observations n the number of observations, 4 \max the largest observation, 9.0 What it says in wordsThe likelihood peaks at the largest observation, which on average falls short of theta by a factor n/(n + 1).Why is it biased, and by how much?
The largest draw can never be above theta and is almost always below it. Four points dropped at random on 0 to theta cut it into five gaps of equal expected length, so the largest point sits on average four fifths of the way up, and the MLE underestimates theta by a fifth on average. Multiplying by 5/4 fixes it: 9.0 becomes 11.25. The bias shrinks as n grows, since n/(n + 1) tends to 1, but with four points it is large.
How does it compare with the obvious alternative?
The method of moments doubles the sample mean, since a uniform on 0 to theta averages theta/2: the mean here is 6.175, giving 12.35. Both 11.25 and 12.35 are unbiased, but the corrected maximum has a much smaller variance, theta squared over n(n + 2) against theta squared over 3n, because the largest draw carries the most information about the top of the range. With four points that is theta squared over 24 against theta squared over 12: half the variance.
Where candidates lose it
Candidates differentiate the log-likelihood, get minus n over theta, set it to zero and find no solution. The likelihood only falls on the allowed range, so the maximum sits at the boundary, the largest observation; say that before reaching for calculus.
The second miss is calling the MLE unbiased because maximum likelihood estimates are often well behaved. Here it is biased low by construction, and the interviewer expects the (n + 1)/n correction.
What the interviewer asks next
- What is the variance of the corrected estimator with four observations?
- What is the MLE if the distribution is uniform on theta to 2 theta?
- Derive the expected value of the maximum of n uniform draws.
Asked at AQR Capital Management, Trading, Town of Greenwich, 2022 (Wall Street Oasis):
Derive the mle for some given distribution. Explain linear regression intuitively and derive the ols estimate.
026You have five trade ideas. Each needs some units of risk budget and carries an expected profit: A needs 4 units for Rs 9 crore, B 3 units for Rs 7 crore, C 5 units for Rs 10 crore, D 2 units for Rs 4 crore and E 6 units for Rs 11 crore. Your budget is 10 units and you cannot take part of an idea. Which ideas do you take?Bridgewater AssociatesNew York · 2025
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Before you enumerate: which set do you expect to win?
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Take B, C and D: 10 units for Rs 21 crore. Ranking by profit per unit of risk picks B (2.33), then A (2.25), then D (2.00), which uses 9 units for Rs 20 crore and leaves one unit idle. Swapping A for C costs a little ratio but fills the budget and adds Rs 1 crore. With whole ideas, you check the few sets that fill the budget rather than trust the ratio alone.
Why is profit per unit of risk the right place to start?
Packing a suitcase for a flight with a weight limit, you favour the things that give the most use per kilo. When the budget is the scarce thing, the useful measure is profit per unit of budget, not profit alone. E earns the most in rupees but only 1.83 per unit, the worst of the five. B earns 2.33 per unit, A 2.25, and C and D 2.00 each. If ideas could be split, you would simply fill from the top of that list and the answer would be exact.
Why does the ratio ranking fail here?
Ideas come whole. Take B and A and you have used 7 units; D fits for 9 units, and nothing else fits in the last one. A unit left idle earns nothing, so a set with a slightly lower average ratio that uses the full budget can beat the greedy pick. Replace A (4 units) with C (5 units) and the budget is full: B, C and D earn 7 + 10 + 4 = Rs 21 crore against Rs 20 crore. This is the knapsack problemChoosing whole items, each with a size and a value, to maximise total value without exceeding a capacity., and the fix is to check the handful of sets that nearly fill the budget.
B, C and D use all 10 risk units for Rs 21 crore, the best set that fits; ranking by profit per unit picks B, A and D, which uses 9 units for Rs 20 crore, and A, B and C would earn Rs 26 crore but needs 12 units. With five ideas there are only 31 possible sets, so enumerate the full ones out loud: B, C, D for 21; A, B, D for 20; A, E for 20; A, C for 19. On a real book with hundreds of positions a desk uses an optimiser, but the logic is the same, and interviewers want to hear that you know the ratio rule is a starting point and not a proof.
Say the limitation too. Expected profit is an estimate, and the gap here is Rs 1 crore on Rs 21 crore. If C's estimate is shakier than A's, a portfolio manager could reasonably prefer the greedy set. The arithmetic tells you the best set on the stated numbers; confidence in each number decides whether that edge is real.
Where candidates lose it
The common loss is ranking by profit per unit, taking the top three, and stopping. That is right for divisible positions and wrong here, because the tenth unit of budget sits unused and the interviewer built the numbers to punish exactly that.
The opposite loss is ranking by rupee profit and grabbing E first. E is the least efficient idea on the list. Say the ratio rule, then check the sets that fill the budget, then say how sure you are of each estimate.
What the interviewer asks next
- The budget rises to 11 units. What changes?
- Ideas B and C are highly correlated, so together they use 9 units instead of 8. Does your answer move?
- You can take half of any idea for half its units and half its profit. What do you take now?
Asked at Bridgewater Associates, Generalist, New York, 2025 (Wall Street Oasis):
Given a list of items and their utilitites, give an algorithm to maximise utility
027A trade surveillance screen flags 90% of genuinely suspicious trades and wrongly flags 5% of clean ones. One trade in a hundred is suspicious. A trade has just been flagged. What is the chance it is actually suspicious?CitadelMiami · 2022
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Gut answer first: a flagged trade is suspicious with probability about
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About 15%, not 90%. Picture 10,000 trades. 100 are suspicious and the screen flags 90 of them. 9,900 are clean and it wrongly flags 5%, which is 495. So 585 trades are flagged and only 90 are suspicious: 90 over 585 is 15.4%. The false flags swamp the true ones because clean trades are so common.
Why is 90% the wrong number?
A smoke alarm that goes off whenever there is a fire is good. But if it also goes off every time someone makes toast, most of its alarms are toast. The 90% tells you how often a suspicious trade gets flagged; the question asks how often a flag is suspicious, and those run in opposite directions. Mixing them up is called the {term('base rate', 'How common something is before any test is run. Here, one trade in a hundred is suspicious.')} fallacy, and it is exactly what this question is built to catch.
How do you get the number without the formula?
Use counts, not percentages. Start with 10,000 trades because it makes every number whole. Split by the truth first, then by what the screen says, and then read only the flagged column. 1% of 10,000 is 100 suspicious trades; 90% of those, 90, are flagged. 9,900 are clean; 5% of those, 495, are flagged anyway. The flagged column holds 585 trades, and 90 of them are the real thing.
Of 10,000 trades, 100 are suspicious and 90 of those are flagged, while 495 of the 9,900 clean trades are flagged by mistake, so only 90 of the 585 flags, 15.4%, point at a suspicious trade. The relationshipS the trade is suspicious F the screen flags the trade 0.01 the base rate: one trade in a hundred is suspicious What it says in wordsThe chance a flag is right equals true flags divided by all flags.Add the desk point after the number. A second, independent check changes things fast: run the 585 flagged trades through a second screen with the same error rates and the 15.4% prior becomes about 77%. A weak test is still useful as a first filter; it is only misleading when its hit rate is read as its accuracy.
Where candidates lose it
Most candidates say 90% within a second, because the question hands them that number. It is the chance of a flag given a suspicious trade, and the interviewer asked the reverse.
The second loss is starting on Bayes' formula with decimals and getting tangled. Say you will use 10,000 trades, draw the two splits, and the answer reads straight off the flagged column.
What the interviewer asks next
- What false flag rate would make a flag right half the time?
- The flagged trades go through a second independent screen and are flagged again. What is the chance now?
- Compliance wants to catch 99% of suspicious trades. What does that usually do to the false flag rate?
Asked at Citadel, Sales and Trading, Miami, 2022 (Wall Street Oasis):
I got a question about Bayes' theorem applied to a practical scenario
028A stick is broken at two points chosen independently and uniformly at random along its length. What is the probability that the three pieces can form a triangle?Quant and systematic fundsProp and quant trading firms
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Where does the answer land?
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One in four. Three lengths make a triangle only if no piece is longer than the other two together, which for a stick of length 1 means no piece is longer than one half. Plot the two break points as a dot in the unit square. The dots that keep every piece under half fill two triangles of area 1/8 each, so the chance is 1/4.
What exactly has to be true for a triangle?
Try to make a triangle from three sticks where one is longer than the other two laid end to end: the short ones cannot reach each other across the long one. Three lengths form a triangle only if the longest is shorter than the sum of the other two, and with a total of 1 that means every piece must be under one half. That turns a geometry question into a single condition you can test on any pair of break points.
How do you turn two random breaks into an area?
Call the break points x and y, each uniform between 0 and 1. Every possible outcome is a dot in the unit square, and every dot is equally likely, so probability is area. Take the half where x is below y: the pieces are x, y minus x and 1 minus y, and all three are under half only when x is below 1/2, y is above 1/2 and y minus x is below 1/2. Those three lines cut out a triangle with corners (0, 1/2), (1/2, 1/2) and (1/2, 1), area 1/8. The half where y comes first gives its mirror image, another 1/8.
Each dot in the square is one pair of break points; only the two green triangles, each of area 1/8, keep every piece shorter than half the stick, so a triangle forms with probability 1/4. The red regions are also worth naming, because each one is a different piece being too long. Three failure regions of area 1/4 each are the first piece, the middle piece and the last piece exceeding half. They cannot overlap, since two pieces cannot both be longer than half, so the answer is 1 minus 3/4, which is 1/4, a second route to the same number.
Mention the variant, because interviewers often switch to it: break the stick once, then break the longer piece at a random point. The answer changes to about 0.386, which is 2 ln 2 minus 1, because the second break is no longer uniform over the whole stick. Knowing the setup changes the answer shows you are reading the question.
Where candidates lose it
The usual loss is guessing from symmetry, 1/2 or 1/3, without writing the condition. Once you say no piece may exceed half, the square and the area come quickly.
The second loss is solving only the case where x is left of y, getting 1/8 and forgetting the mirror half. Either break point is equally likely to be the left one, so the good region always comes in two pieces.
What the interviewer asks next
- Break the stick once, then break the longer piece at a random point. What is the chance now?
- What is the expected length of the longest piece?
- What is the probability that the three pieces form an acute triangle?
029You roll a fair six-sided die six times. What is the expected number of distinct faces you see?Quant and systematic fundsProp and quant trading firms
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Pick the closest before you calculate.
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About 3.99, so roughly four. Give each face its own yes-or-no: did it appear at least once? A face is missed in all six rolls with chance (5/6)^6, about 33.5%, so it appears with chance about 66.5%. The expected count is the sum of the six chances: 6 x (1 minus (5/6)^6), which is 3.9906.
Why not work out the chance of seeing exactly 1, 2, up to 6 faces?
You could, but each of those needs a fiddly count. There is a shortcut that works whenever the question asks for an expected count. Think of a teacher checking attendance: the expected number present is simply the sum, over pupils, of each pupil's chance of turning up. Write the total as a sum of yes-or-no indicators, one per face, and the expected total is the sum of their probabilities, whether or not they are independent. That rule is {term('linearity of expectation', 'The expected value of a sum equals the sum of the expected values, even when the parts depend on each other.')}, and it turns a hard count into one line.
What is the chance that a given face shows up?
It is easier to find the chance it does not. Each roll misses the face with chance 5/6, and the six rolls are independent, so the face is missed every time with chance (5/6)^6, which is 15,625 over 46,656, about 33.5%. So each face appears at least once with chance about 66.5%, and six faces give 3.99. The indicators are not independent, since seeing face 1 a lot leaves less room for face 2, but linearity does not care.
Each of the six faces appears at least once in six rolls with probability 66.5% and is missed with probability 33.5%, so the expected number of distinct faces is 6 x 0.6651, about 3.99. The relationshipf a face of the die, 1 to 6 (5/6)^6 the chance a given face is missed in all six rolls What it says in wordsThe expected number of faces seen is six times the chance any one face is seen.Give the general form and a sense check. With n faces and n rolls the answer is n(1 minus (1 minus 1/n)^n), which tends to n(1 minus 1/e), about 63% of n. For a die that predicts 3.79, and the exact 3.99 is a little higher because six is small. The same logic tells a desk how many distinct names a random sample of trades touches.
Where candidates lose it
The first loss is saying six, or five, from instinct. The chance that six rolls give six different faces is 720 over 46,656, about 1.5%, so repeats are the normal case.
The second loss is trying to build the full distribution of distinct faces under time pressure and running out of time. Say indicator variables in the first sentence and the question is a one-liner.
What the interviewer asks next
- How many rolls do you expect to need before you have seen all six faces?
- What is the expected number of faces that appear exactly once in six rolls?
- What is the variance of the number of distinct faces?
030Your fund owns 1% of a company's shares. On a normal day 0.2% of the company's shares change hands, and your desk will not trade more than 20% of the day's volume. How many trading days do you need to exit the position?Multi-manager platformsLong-short equity funds
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Quick number:
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About 25 trading days, roughly five weeks. The market trades 0.2% of the shares a day and you take at most a fifth of that, so you can sell 0.04% of the company a day. A 1% stake divided by 0.04% a day is 25 days. In the desk's language the position is five days of volume, and exiting it without moving the price takes a month.
What is the one division that answers it?
Emptying a water tank through a tap that you are only allowed to open a fifth of the way: how long it takes is the tank size divided by the flow you actually use. Days to exit equals position size divided by your daily selling capacity, and capacity is market volume times your participation cap. Here that is 1% over (0.2% x 20%), or 1% over 0.04%: 25 days. Keeping everything in percent of shares means you never need the share count or the price.
Selling 0.04% of the company each day, 20% of the daily 0.2% volume, the 1% stake falls in equal steps and is fully sold only after 25 trading days, with 0.80% still held after the first week. Why does a portfolio manager care about this number?
Because the price can move a long way in 25 days. A position you cannot exit quickly carries more risk than its daily volatility suggests: if the stock falls 2% a day for a week, you have sold only a fifth of it. That is why many desks cap a position at a set number of days of volume, often a few days, and why liquidity sits beside volatility in position sizing. The measure has a name, days to liquidatePosition size divided by the volume you can realistically trade in a day; a common liquidity limit on hedge fund books., and interviewers like hearing it.
Say the limitations. Volume is not steady; it dries up exactly when you most want to sell, and in a sell-off everyone is trying to do the same thing. A 20% participation rate also moves the price against you, so the real exit costs more than the screen price. A stronger answer adds that you would stress the calculation with half the normal volume, which gives 50 days.
Where candidates lose it
The fast wrong answer is five days: 1% divided by 0.2%. It assumes you can be all the volume in the stock, which would crush the price. The participation cap is the whole point of the question.
The second loss is converting to shares and rupees before dividing. Everything is already a percentage of the same share count, so one division does it. Say the answer, then say why liquidity is a risk in its own right.
What the interviewer asks next
- Volume halves in a sell-off. How long now, and what would you do in the first week?
- The fund has a rule of no more than five days to liquidate. How big can the position be?
- How would you estimate the price impact of selling 20% of volume every day?
